How do Protestants explain (James 5: 14-15)

[Steadfast]

Why are you assuming that my sources have an agenda?

I can cite them if you would like:

Richard Marius
Paul Johnson
Jaroslav Pelikan
Alister McGrath
Christopher DeHamel

Two of them are Roman Catholic and one is Eastern Orthodox.

None of them have an agenda.

I could not cite Daniel-Rops and Crocker because they aren’t serious historians, they’re propagandists.

And I am glad to see you have returned to your original position, reasserting the claim that the canon was closed before there ever was a Lutheran Church.

You’re wrong.

Are you saying that the canon was somehow closed but scholars like Ximenes and Erasmus and Jerome were permitted to write and teach as though it were not?

That would be an interesting position to take.

Look, if you’re interested in actually discussing this, well, that’s what I am here for and I will happily interact with you. But if all you’re here for is to sling around the title heretic and grandstand and demean the arguer rather than dealing with the argument, then I guess I’m going to take a pass on the rest of the conversation.

 

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Do Protestants recognize James as “scripture”?

 

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Do Protestants recognize James as “scripture”?

They certainly do.

 

[MDK]

Why are you assuming that my sources have an agenda?

I can cite them if you would like:

Richard Marius
Paul Johnson
Jaroslav Pelikan
Alister McGrath
Christopher DeHamel

Two of them are Roman Catholic and one is Eastern Orthodox.

None of them have an agenda.

I could not cite Daniel-Rops and Crocker because they aren’t serious historians, they’re propagandists.

And I am glad to see you have returned to your original position, reasserting the claim that the canon was closed before there ever was a Lutheran Church.

You’re wrong.

Are you saying that the canon was somehow closed but scholars like Ximenes and Erasmus and Jerome were permitted to write and teach as though it were not?

That would be an interesting position to take.

Look, if you’re interested in actually discussing this, well, that’s what I am here for and I will happily interact with you. But if all you’re here for is to sling around the title heretic and grandstand and demean the arguer rather than dealing with the argument, then I guess I’m going to take a pass on the rest of the conversation.

I went to Italy on 12 Dec. You appear to be addressing the quoted post to me. Sadly, I don’t think you really understand me very well at all, or if you do you don’t show it. There is no demeaning the person, but sharing the truth. If you’re on the wrong side of it, not much I can do to help you, as it’s up to you. There are a number of bad assumptions/falsehoods/misleading statements in your post.

None of the sources have an agenda? That’s probably not true. I would hope that they do have some good agenda, like seeking the truth… which doesn’t seem to match with your purpose.

As far as St. Jerome is concerned, he never either categorically acknowledged nor did he categorically reject the deuterocanonical books as part of the Canon of Scripture, and he repeatedly made use of them.

Where did I say “all your sources” or “everyone you’ve learned from?” I didn’t. However, your mindset is one that indicates acceptance of falsehoods. One can select writings of a legitimate writer, like the inspired authors of the books of the Bible for instance, and quote them out of context to make them seem like something they are not.

No all who call themselves Catholic are actually in line with the Church. So, it’s more than just a label.

Never left my original position, but discussed an aspect of it in a way that I had hoped you could understand and begin to accept.

There can always be discussion about something. Scholars can discuss as they desire. The Pope does not control them.

 

[Frank_Cox]

I am not a Protestant but I see no reason to ask this question.

It seems simple enough. If you are sick ask the elders to pray for you, not a preist in a box.

As far as sins forgiven read the rest of the chapter where it says to confess the sins . The prayers of a righteous man do avail.When we ask the Holy Spirit to touch the heart of our fellow sinners and the sinner responds he will be healed of the sin. There is a guarantee we will be healed , perhaps on this side of death perhaps the other.