How do the Mormons do it?

[Stephen168]

We do not teach or believe this.

Yes you do. The Mormon Church teaches there is a way that ‘priesthood authority’ is past from person to person, generation to generation. You have to imagine step by step, how the Mormon Church could lose ‘priesthood authority’ and still be a functioning organization.
The answer is: it can’t. (if you disagree, just explain step by step how it is possible)
Therefore: According to Mormonism there is no way that “priesthood authority” could be lost in the Mormon Church.

If “priesthood authority” can not be lost in the current church of Christ, then it could not be lost in the original Church started by Christ Christ 2000 year ago.Therefore; there is no need for a restoration. Joe made it all up.

 

[Naf623]

Yes you do. The Mormon Church teaches there is a way that ‘priesthood authority’ is past from person to person, generation to generation.

Yes, by the laying on of hands from one worthy priesthood holder, acting within his authority and with the approval of his presiding priesthood authority, to another worthy man; exactly as it was in the early church.
If you don’t believe that there is a way for priesthood authority to be passed on, how can you claim to have any at all?

You have to imagine step by step, how the Mormon Church could lose ‘priesthood authority’ and still be a functioning organization.
The answer is: it can’t. (if you disagree, just explain step by step how it is possible)

Exactly as the Catholic church: if we recognised the loss of correct authority, we could not continue to function. The only options are not to recognise (or not notice) the loss, or to cease activity.

Therefore: According to Mormonism there is no way that “priesthood authority” could be lost in the Mormon Church.

‘Therefore’ does not make sense. You have not created a string of ideas with an obvious conclusion.
As I pointed out, priesthood authority is only held with those who worthily act in their calling. Priesthood authority would not continue to be passed on (even if people went through the motions, not recognising the loss) if either those passing, or receiving are not worthy of it. Therefore priesthood authority could be once again lost to the earth by members of the church straying from true doctrine and correct principles en masse.

If “priesthood authority” can not be lost in the current church of Christ, then it could not be lost in the original Church started by Christ Christ 2000 year ago.Therefore; there is no need for a restoration. Joe made it all up.

Your conclusions, as above, do not follow logically as you are making false statements and assumptions.
We’re it true that priesthood authority could not be lost, then you would be correct. However, this is not the case and so you are wrong.

 

[truthsave]

We do not teach or believe this. We do not believe it ever will happen, but we do believe that widespread departing from true teaching could cause it, should it happen. Just the same as it did **in the early few centuries **after Christ and the Apostles’ death.

You are saying that your way (mormon way) of seeing aapostasy is that it happened after few early century. But the teaching of the early centuries can be historically found in traditions, people, saints (not your denomination of saint) and writings and if not all the same the heart was unchanged, they started to differ not in the centre of their meaning but in the periphery, certainly not any trace of something like mormon doctrine is ever to be found in Judaism wiew and then early Christians. When you say restauration is something that is there and then is altered. So the base of alteration should be found. In mormonism not even the base of Judaism and OT wiew of God is respected, and forget about the NT.

 

[Stephen168]

if …

To create a need for a Restoration, there has to have been a Great Apostasy.

I. Mormonism claims the Apostasy means:
A. There were no more living prophets/apostles to continuously reveal the truth
B. Plain and precious truths (true doctrine) became subverted by human ideas and was thus lost
C. The priesthood authority was gone from the earth.

II. The Problems with the Mormon claim:
A. No living Prophet
1. Christianity never claimed to have a prophet (single person receiving revelation for all Christendom)
2. Mormon Prophets don’t prophesizes.
B. Doctrine must not change
1. Define Doctrine – an article of faith revealed by God, which the Church presents to be believed. The most universal beliefs which reason would dictate can not change; beliefs of who God is and means of salvation for example.
2. Mormon Doctrine has changes
a) Blood Atonement
b) Adam-God theory
c) Mark of Cain
C. Loss of Priesthood Authority
1. Every Mormon male has Priesthood authority
2. Priesthood authority and leadership are not the same thing
a) A sinful person does not lose his authority
(1) King Noah had priesthood authority to give to Alma to baptize at the Waters of Mormon
3. To lose Priesthood authority:
a) Every Priesthood holders would have not pass on their authority
b) At almost the same time non-Priesthood holders take over leadership of the Church.
**
III. The Catholic/Orthodox Claim:
A. No living Prophet
1. Christianity never had a prophet
2. Christ reveled all we need for salvation during his earthly ministry, so no need for continuing public revelation.
B. Doctrine must not change
1. Define Doctrine (Dogma) – an article of faith revealed by God, which the Church presents to be believed. The most universal beliefs which reason would dictate can not change; beliefs of who God is and means of salvation for example.
2. Catholic/Orthodox Doctrines do not change
a) Trinity
b) Eucharist
c) Baptism
C. No loss of Priesthood Authority
1. The Bishops have the full priesthood authority.
2. Apostolic Succession
a) The title Apostle was limited to those sent by Christ
b) The Apostles passed their authority to the Bishops
** c) The Bishops have passed their authority down to this day

 

[RebeccaJ]

Perhaps you shouldn’t rely on rumour and information from people (including ex-members) who don’t know what they are talking about and don’t understand.

Marriages that were polygamous in this life (correctly recognised by God, as with OT prophets for example) will continue to be so in eternity, but I’m not aware that we will comtinue to make further marriages.

As to the temple sealing covenants: it is entirely three ways, between the two spouses, and also between them and God. Even should the connection between the two be broken by disobedience or divorce, the sealing covenant can still remain in effect for the worthy spouse and still gives them claim on salvation if they keep their covenants with God.

Who was talking about salvation? I said resurrection.

The temple sealing is necessary to achieve the highest degree of exalted glory, but God’s eternal perfect justice cannot deny something to someone on the basis of something beyond their control. If someone has dilligently sought to gain this sealing, but has not has the opportunity to do so, He has a plan prepared that they will not be at a disadvantage eternally. Just tmthe same way that baptism for the dead enables all those who have died without the opportunity to come to Christ to still enter heaven.

Yes as I said a woman who is without a husband can hope that some strange guy picks her up for a wife. Who cares if you balk at the word “will” be polygamous, doesn’t matter, as the entire belief of marriage required as anything is non-biblical, only believed by Mormons, because they follow Joseph Smith, who used all this marriage worship to cover his salacious affairs.

A Mormon man can be sealed to more than one woman, a woman cannot be sealed to more than one man. That is a polygamous practice. Mormons continue to defend polygamy to this day.

As for what I know and don’t know, I was raised LDS, spent four years in Mormon seminary on every school day. I know what I was taught because I know what I rejected as absolute baloney.