How Does One Keep Faith?

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It seems that the only times I post here are when I’m experiencing crisis of faith and/or depression, so apologies first and foremost.

As I mentioned in a thread posted previously, I am experiencing (another) crisis of faith. This attack has lasted about a month so far. It all started with a single stray thought that completely demolished my belief in everything. The existence of God, the divinity of Christ, the existence of “real” truth, the afterlife, everything. I spent weeks meandering around in sheer despair. I was on autopilot, faking happiness to my friends, family, and even my girlfriend of four years.

In my depressed state of mind, there was no point in doing anything. If we all were going to die and fade into the infinite blackness, why bother? Any earthly pleasure was only temporary and distracted thoughts from the inevitable. Any accomplishments I would have made in life would not matter in the slightest. Any good or evil done in life would not matter. Nothing humans do would amount to anything. Every single war, every single nation, every last person, nothing. The entire history of mankind was a small, insignificant speck compared to the rest of the cold, unfeeling universe. A random fluke of nature and a product of chemical reactions. Anything saying otherwise was simply self-delusion and wishful thinking. Tall tales created by men afraid of the dark to make themselves feel better about the concept of non-existence.

This was my mindset. In a desperate search for some kind of reassurance, I began my efforts to rebuild my faith from the ground up. I didn’t have any real form of Christian upbringing, so I didn’t have anywhere near the education that others had. I read the Bible. I prayed. I read many, many articles about Christianity. I checked out apologetic works by people like Lee Strobel, C.S. Lewis, and William Lane Craig. I watched programming on EWTN. I’ve done these and much more in my research.

I feel my faith coming back slowly and my demeanor improving, but I’m still plagued by doubts. I still don’t fully understand how we can believe with 100% certainty that God exists, that Jesus was his son, that the Gospels are genuine, that the Catholic Church is the one true Christian church and the one true religion, etc. Especially with the absolutely staggering amount of scientific and logical arguments against everything Christians believe in. I just can’t wrap my head around the idea that people can believe when there’s so many people who seem to have dedicated their lives to proving them wrong.

Yet somehow, something tells me inside tells me that I just might be on to something with Christianity. That maybe my crisis was meant to draw me closer to God, Or perhaps it was an attempt by the Devil to pull me away from Him and into sin. Or maybe it’s just me clinging onto what’s left of my belief with a white-knuckle grip. In any case, I’m forcing myself to move forward. If there truly is a loving God, then this suffering is for a greater cause. I’m really hoping it is.
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you keep it by the grace of God, Faith, Hope, and Charity are the infused virtues, and you obtain them by prayer and frequenting the sacraments.

but if you want answers to all those questions that are perplexing you, then i would say to just get busy on educating yourself, and to start you off here are some really great sites for good and trustworthy catholic information -
audiosancto.org/
keepthefaith.org/
catholicapologetics.info/
fultonsheen.com/Fulton-Sheen-MP3.cfm
youtube.com/user/CatholicClips#g/p
youtube.com/user/AFaithfulServant#g/c/291A7A1EB7543269
gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewforum.php?f=211197
tanbooks.com/index.php
fraternitypublications.com

personally, i know to much and have seen to much to even doubt or question my faith slightly…and i’ve reached that point by alot of reading, and alot of prayer, especially reading the lives of the saints, and stories of miracles, and things like the incorruptibles…it does take alot of faith, but we’re not asked to believe without reason, and you can find all the reason you need through the church’s teachings, i’ve personally never been left baffled, because i could always find the answer one way or another, you just need to be patient while searching for the answers, because sometimes it can take awhile,
but how can we believe with 100% certainty that God exists? well, perhaps this will explain it to you better than i can(actually i’m sure it will, who could explain it better than St. Thomas Aquinas? d: ) - gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=21223005
then again, St. Thomas can be hard to grasp, in which case here is another very good explanation - gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=20538423

one thing that assures me is perhaps one of the simplest questions, how can nothing come from nothing?
where did beginning come from? when did existence come into being? or when did being come into existence?..the answer, of course, is that someone had to have been there who was without beginning, because as we know, for every action there is a reaction, but where did the very first action come from?
although that is not all that assures me, but if you really apply yourself then you will build up your own reasons and assurances for your faith, so i just recommend checking out those sites i gave you, they are trustworthy and incredibly insightful, which is important, because most things you come across online or in regular book stores are not very trustworthy.

so, just pray every day, read good books, especially the lives and writings of the saints, and from that you will know everything else you must do,
and don’t worry, God is being patient with you, and you need to be patient with yourself, so don’t overdo it, and don’t under-do it either.

alright, hope this helps, i’ll keep you in my prayers, take care.
 
If you know a priest you feel you can talk to, that may help. I’m sure they have heard similar “crisis of faith” in many others, and can give you some good direction.
 
Thank you, EmeraldWings, for the links. I will look into them. And Dorothy, I am planning on contacting the nearest Catholic church to see if I can talk to a priest. I plan on regularly attending Mass as soon as possible, given that I can get myself there in a practical manner.
 
I feel my faith coming back slowly and my demeanor improving, but I’m still plagued by doubts. I still don’t fully understand how we can believe with 100% certainty that God exists, that Jesus was his son, that the Gospels are genuine, that the Catholic Church is the one true Christian church and the one true religion, etc. Especially with the absolutely staggering amount of scientific and logical arguments against everything Christians believe in. I just can’t wrap my head around the idea that people can believe when there’s so many people who seem to have dedicated their lives to proving them wrong.

Yet somehow, something tells me inside tells me that I just might be on to something with Christianity. That maybe my crisis was meant to draw me closer to God, Or perhaps it was an attempt by the Devil to pull me away from Him and into sin. Or maybe it’s just me clinging onto what’s left of my belief with a white-knuckle grip. In any case, I’m forcing myself to move forward. If there truly is a loving God, then this suffering is for a greater cause. I’m really hoping it is.
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How does one keep faith? Exactly how you have been doing it. God bless you. You have been undergoing a severe trial, but you have not given up the struggle to remain constant in your faith. You have not experienced the consolation of knowing with 100% certainty, but you have not given up the fight and continue to hope and cling to what little faith you can muster. You are truly gaining much merit for yourself, and glory for God by this practice.

It is easiest to love God when we are carried by a sweet faith and vision of God within our hearts, but when He allows the clouds to cover this vision for a time, and we find ourselves at the foot of the Cross, where we find the One we have hoped and believed in bloodied, naked, crucified, mocked, and abandoned by all else, and we find ourselves tempted to join them, that is when we are most able to prove our love and console His sorrowful heart, so scorned by men, by remaining with Him and offering up our confusion and sorrows. God bless you. Take up your cross each day, and you will soon find that the trial has passed, it is Easter and the clouds have parted, and you are once again warmed by the rays of the Son and are capable again of experiencing His delights.
 
I think you are doing a good job of keeping the faith. 👍

Most (all?) people go through phases of doubt to some degree. I don’t think we can ever be 100% sure. Faith can’t be measured in this way. I definitely have moments when I wonder about what Christianity teaches and it all seems a bit crazy. But every time I see that atheism makes no sense and that it does not bring happiness. Ever since I have truly embraced my faith my life has been in harmony and I’ve felt true joy. Life makes sense with Christ. I guess we can say that the proof is in the pudding. Science has nothing to do with it.

I suggest you read some good apologetics that deals with the atheist-scientific arguments against the existence of God. Go to the apologetics forum and ask for suggestions on what to read. Personally I have not engaged with that literature but there are serious Christian scientists and apologists who focus on this trend in modern atheism.

There is one thing I can hopefully clarify here. Science can answer questions about how things happen, about a number of different processes. But it can’t answer why. Unfortunately, many famous scientists like Dawkins and Hawking don’t understand the difference between the two questions. I guess it is not part of their methodology. But to distinguish between the two is basic social science (which is something I know about). The how question can help us understand the why question better but they are fundamentally different. Always keep that in mind. Plus, these people have an agenda, they are not honest in their inquiry. They are atheists and thus deliberately present science as proving their position. They don’t engage with believers on a deeper level and are not truly open to arguments from the other side. Yet another reason to look into good apologetics and see through their arguments.
 
Here’s an update:

In a quiet moment of reflection, I mentally went over everything I’ve learned so far in the past month. The arguments for the existence of God, the validity of the New Testament, the teachings and resurrection of Christ, and the shortcomings of atheist arguments. I attempted to build my faith from the ground up, so to speak. I started with God and worked my way up.

By the time I was done, I felt a sort of peace and clarity. It all just settled neatly into place. I looked at what I had mentally assembled and felt convinced enough to say that I do believe in God, and in the Catholic Church. In my state of peace I began to pray. I said, “Thank you, God. Thank you so much. Don’t let anything undermine my faith, don’t let anything destroy it. If you give me the wisdom and the strength, I will fight for you, Lord”. I then recited (what I knew of) the Apostle’s Creed several times to myself. It rang true for the first time in a long while.

I then decided to open my Bible at random to see what I would get. I ended up on Sirach 43. Skimming through it, I ran into verse 35: “It is the Lord who has made all things, and to those who fear him he gives wisdom”. Could this be God speaking to me through His word?

EDIT: I would also like to thank for anyone who spared the time to pray for me. It really does mean a lot.
 
Here’s an update:

In a quiet moment of reflection, I mentally went over everything I’ve learned so far in the past month. The arguments for the existence of God, the validity of the New Testament, the teachings and resurrection of Christ, and the shortcomings of atheist arguments. I attempted to build my faith from the ground up, so to speak. I started with God and worked my way up.

By the time I was done, I felt a sort of peace and clarity. It all just settled neatly into place. I looked at what I had mentally assembled and felt convinced enough to say that I do believe in God, and in the Catholic Church. In my state of peace I began to pray. I said, “Thank you, God. Thank you so much. Don’t let anything undermine my faith, don’t let anything destroy it. If you give me the wisdom and the strength, I will fight for you, Lord”. I then recited (what I knew of) the Apostle’s Creed several times to myself. It rang true for the first time in a long while.

I then decided to open my Bible at random to see what I would get. I ended up on Sirach 43. Skimming through it, I ran into verse 35: “It is the Lord who has made all things, and to those who fear him he gives wisdom”. Could this be God speaking to me through His word?

EDIT: I would also like to thank for anyone who spared the time to pray for me. It really does mean a lot.
It could be that god is speaking to you. What you experienced is not unqiue, there is even a phrase for it called, “the long dark night of the soul.”

"To sum up, typically for a believer in the dark night of the soul, spiritual disciplines (such as prayer and consistent devotion to God) suddenly seem to lose all their experiential value; traditional prayer is extremely difficult and unrewarding for an extended period of time during this “dark night.” The individual may feel as though God has suddenly abandoned them or that his or her prayer life has collapsed. It is important to note however that the presence of doubt is not tantamount to abandonment—as there is a strong Biblical tradition of authentic confusion before God. Psalms 13, 22, and 44 display King David, the ‘man after God’s own heart’ undergoing serious confusion before and anguish with God, yet this is not condemned or mentioned as being unfaithful, but rather as the only measure of faith that David could have in the face of such withering apparent abandonment.

Rather than resulting in permanent devastation, the dark night is regarded by mystics and others as a blessing in disguise, whereby the individual is stripped (in the dark night of the senses) of the spiritual ecstasy associated with acts of virtue. Although individuals may for a time seem to outwardly decline in their practices of virtue, in reality they become more virtuous, as they are being virtuous less for the spiritual rewards (ecstasies in the cases of the first night) obtained and more out of a true love for God. It is this purgatory, a purgation of the soul, that brings purity and union with God." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Night_of_the_Soul

Even Mother Theresa went through it. She used this as an opportunity to become more faithful. She said something along the line of God by withdrawing himself made her search more actively for him. In doing so it made her a better Christian as she renewed herself to finding him she also grew in love and compassion. Maybe the same is happening to you as well? I am glad that you found peace. Also, science does not necessarily conflict with Catholic principles. Sometimes people look at the scientific data and claim more to it then there actually is.
 
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