How have you come to understand why God chose a people (the Jews)?

[fms]

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   *]How have you come to understand why God chose a people (the Jews)?
   *]Are there Jews in your immediate family who have become Catholics? If so, what do the rest think of them? What reasons prompted them to be Catholics?
   *]What is your opinion of the Catholic religion? Name a few things you find attractive about it?
   *]How have you come to understand God’s plan for the rest of mankind (the gentiles)?

 

[Kaninchen]

1. 
   *]How have you come to understand why God chose a people (the Jews)?
   *]Are there Jews in your immediate family who have become Catholics? If so, what do the rest think of them? What reasons prompted them to be Catholics?
   *]What is your opinion of the Catholic religion? Name a few things you find attractive about it?
   *]How have you come to understand God’s plan for the rest of mankind (the gentiles)?

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   Hm, you’re not supposed to name posters in thread titles.
   
   By Jewish legend, it wasn’t so much that God chose us, more that we were the ones who accepted the Covenant after the rest had refused.
   
   There are no Christians in my immediate family. I think there must have been some marrying-in in our history, though (or why would I look like any other blonde Northern Italian in the street?
   
   When I think of Catholics, I think of the ones I know. They’re good people, devoted to their religion and helping others (I give up one day a week to working for free for a charity and there are a number of Catholics who do likewise). As to Catholicism, given my background, I tend to think ‘Architecture’ D), as to the Catholic Faith . . . I respect its relationship to tradition/Law and its ability to move forward while keeping to its essential beliefs.
   
   God’s plan for everybody else? There’s no reason non-Jews should not have hope for the World to Come, since less is required of non-Jews, their hopes may even be easier to achieve.
   
   PS, it’s never a good idea to ask Jews questions on Fridays, we tend to disappear late on

 

[fms]

Thank you so much!

In your Sabbath, remember me and my family! We will continue after.

 

[fms]

Hm, you’re not supposed to name posters in thread titles.

Thank you! Learnt something!

By Jewish legend, it wasn’t so much that God chose us, more that we were the ones who accepted the Covenant after the rest had refused.

Hmm,scripture says he chose but I leave that for another day.

For what end was God offering a covenant to people?

There are no Christians in my immediate family. I think there must have been some marrying-in in our history, though (or why would I look like any other blonde Northern Italian in the street?

What a pity! No distinguishing Jewish features? Just kidding!

When I think of Catholics, I think of the ones I know. They’re good people, devoted to their religion and helping others (I give up one day a week to working for free for a charity and there are a number of Catholics who do likewise). As to Catholicism, given my background, I tend to think ‘Architecture’ D), as to the Catholic Faith . . . I respect its relationship to tradition/Law and its ability to move forward while keeping to its essential beliefs.

Don’t you find it incredible that this Church was founded on men (fishermen, a tax collecter, etc) who themselves were nothing (no riches, education, status) in their time? And all but one was died for their belief?

A lie may be ‘safe’ with one man but with 12? And among their group women?

My wisdom of late is that a lie requires a clossal structure that soon collapses under its own weight. Your own observation is that this institution (2000 year old and now the oldest in the world) has remained faithful to its essential beliefs.

There has to be something greater here…

God’s plan for everybody else? There’s no reason non-Jews should not have hope for the World to Come, since less is required of non-Jews, their hopes may even be easier to achieve.

What is the reward for living a virtuous life here and hereafter? What happens to one if they don’t here and hereafter?

PS, it’s never a good idea to ask Jews questions on Fridays, we tend to disappear late on

Thank you for the reminder.

 

[ConstantineTG]

Who refused the covenant? Didn’t God see that Abraham was faithful and thus tested him and afterwards made this covenant with him? I don’t think God made the offer to anyone else because they weren’t right with Him to begin with. Abraham was faithful to God, therefore he got rewarded by fathering God’s nation.

 

[Frere]

1. 
   *]How have you come to understand why God chose a people (the Jews)?
   *]Are there Jews in your immediate family who have become Catholics? If so, what do the rest think of them? What reasons prompted them to be Catholics?
   *]What is your opinion of the Catholic religion? Name a few things you find attractive about it?
   *]How have you come to understand God’s plan for the rest of mankind (the gentiles)?

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   Hello fms
   1. First everyone is choosen for a special thing. Jews were choose for a special thing. Just as in a family a father, a mother, the first son, etc, each one by its position have a special role to play, the role is special to each and also in relation to others. Jews are descendants from a long line of what I understand as the ‘most righteous’. It is not that they are not sinners like others. It is like they were the most repentant until the time of Jesus. The word ‘jew’ is from ‘juda’ and points to a spirituality practiced by the descendants of Juda who went back to Jerusalem from exile before the time of Jesus. Otherwise the spirituality practiced Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, David, etc…was not exactly Judaism simply because Juda was not singled out yet singled out as a remnant people. Also this spirituality grew in purity from the time of Moses to the time of Judaism. So I can say that Judaism at the time of Jesus was purer than the spirituality of the times of Moses, etc…This was a spirituality pure enough to produce the Blessed Mary.
   2. No.
   3. Catholicism is the spirituality of Mary expanded again more and more broadly to a universal level. Because of sin, the worship of Noah ( or universal worship) had grown narrower as peoples and generations grew in weakdness to the point that only descendant of Juda, and then Mary were the only ones left pure. From Mary, God fired up again the fire of righteousness, and started building up a new universal people with Jesus as the new Adam.
   4. Catholicism is the plan of God to the gentiles. God does not really have separate plans for humanity. Only the way people are set up causes them to evolve in separate ways. It is like Anglicans left the Latin rite in the 1500. Now, some are returning under an adjusted Latin rite and with a special structure of their own. This is really what happened to the gentiles in regard to the descendants of Shem/Abraham to Mary. The others had left true worship, but when they returned, they return under different form of Judaism which we call rites of the Catholic Church.

 

[Kaninchen]

Thank you! Learnt something!

Hmm,scripture says he chose but I leave that for another day.

For what end was God offering a covenant to people?

Don’t you find it incredible that this Church was founded on men (fishermen, a tax collecter, etc) who themselves were nothing (no riches, education, status) in their time? And all but one was died for their belief?

A lie may be ‘safe’ with one man but with 12? And among their group women?

My wisdom of late is that a lie requires a clossal structure that soon collapses under its own weight. Your own observation is that this institution (2000 year old and now the oldest in the world) has remained faithful to its essential beliefs.

There has to be something greater here…

What is the reward for living a virtuous life here and hereafter? What happens to one if they don’t here and hereafter?

You know, a lot of this stuff would be covered by you going to somewhere like Judaism 101, or My Jewish Learning, or a number of similar sites - thus saving me from a lot of typing and dealing with the series of cascading questions that would then come from my answers.

As to the ‘being impressed by the origins and lasting qualities’ of Christianity - no, I’m no more impressed than by the origins and staying power of a number of religions and political philosophies.

 

[fms]

You know, a lot of this stuff would be covered by you going to somewhere like Judaism 101, or My Jewish Learning, or a number of similar sites - thus saving me from a lot of typing and dealing with the series of cascading questions that would then come from my answers.

As to the ‘being impressed by the origins and lasting qualities’ of Christianity - no, I’m no more impressed than by the origins and staying power of a number of religions and political philosophies.

Thank you Kaninchen!