How important is "social justice" to God, really?

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While we see many examples of Sacred Scripture apparently advocating for the tiving of alms to the poor to help them survive, we see very few if any instances of it advocating helping the poor out of poverty or of even encouraging the poor to help themselves out of poverty in any way.

Also, certainly in the New Testament, we apparently see Jesus and the Apostles advocating the giving of alms to help both the poor and/or disabled, yet we see no instance of either of these encouraging people to help the poor out of poverty or to help the disabled overcome their disability. Nor do we see them encouraging either class to help themselves or eve to advocate for themselves.

So, then, does God really care about social justice in the way we think of it today, i.e., giving to the poor and disadantaged BUT ALSO helping them get out of this state and lending support to those who would advocate for themselves?

Indeed, all Jesus’ focus on people with disabilities seemed to be was to heal them. If He truly cared about social justice in the way we do today, why would He not try to do more for them, e.g., to help them to overcome their disability as much as it was possible in that day?

Indeed, does God even support this kind of social justice or are we merely to give hand-outs rather than hands up?

Some might argue that the issue was more a cultural than a moral one and that no-one, either God or Jesus or any of His earthly servants, wisht to upset the cultural/social apple cart, as it were. If this is the case, it would seem that very few if any poor/disabled/disadvantaged people would actually be able to move up from these states (at least as best they could) that far at all! If it is cultural, when (if ever) were Christians supposed to “upset the apple cart” when it came to social justice? Or, were they ever? Or, rather, were they supposed to sit around and wait for the societies to “be ready” for that change before they started advocating it, so that change came from the “outside” (the non-Christian/Catholic world) rather than first from inside the Church? Or, is our modern social justice approach even something God’ advocates?

In other words, does God, as it were, only support a “give a man a fish” strategy to helping the poor/disabled/disadvantaged or does He also support a “teach a man to fish” angle on this? If He supports the latter, why is there no indication of it in Sacred Scripture?

Would appreciate any help you could provide with my understtanding ofthis matter.

Multas gratias.
 
Do you seriously think that God would want people to suffer the indignity of a continual handout?
Do you really think that God wants us to just give enough for a day or two, and then not think about them anymore?
Do you really believe that everything that ever needs to be stated can be found in Scripture?
That there are no lessons to be learned via the Holy Spirit?
That every single thing in the universe or human experience has to be spelled out, or people would be too thick to understand what the Christian thing to do would be?

I don’t think God created us to be that thick headed.
Sure, we tend to be slow to heed, but…

(I know you like a lot of questions at a time.) 😉
 
Are you suggesting that God might be displeased with an effort to help someone improve their state in life? Are you imagining Him reprimanding someone for participating in such an effort because it’s not mentioned in Scripture?

Should you really be asking this question here? Scripture does not give us permission or authority to participate in discussions on Internet message boards.
 
1 issue raised.
First, over 90% of people in His day were what we would call poor; in a society that did not create wealth (pretty much all of them), you were either in the ruling class or you were poor. That was the “old normal.” There were exceptions, but not numerously. BThere was no “upward mobility” as we think of it, either. If you were born poor, you most likely died poor.

So while helping someone to survive the worst blows of poverty was achievable, “leading them out of poverty” was not. They still lived in an ancient, exhausted and oppressed land.

As to disability, if you had the power to restore someone bodily, isn’t that better than teaching them to live with the disability?

ICXC NIKA
 
17 As Jesus was starting out on his way to Jerusalem, a man came running up to him, knelt down, and asked, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked. “Only God is truly good. 19 But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not murder. You must not commit adultery. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. You must not cheat anyone. Honor your father and mother.’[a]”

20 “Teacher,” the man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.”

21 Looking at the man, Jesus felt genuine love for him. “There is still one thing you haven’t done,” he told him. “Go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 At this the man’s face fell, and he went away sad, for he had many possessions.

So many with fallen faces claim to be Christians
 
…we see very few if any instances of it … even encouraging the poor to help themselves out of poverty in any way.
St Paul encouraged Christians to earn their own living:

6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us. 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us; we were not idle when we were with you, 8 we did not eat any one’s bread without paying, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not burden any of you. 9 It was not because we have not that right, but to give you in our conduct an example to imitate. 10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this command: If any one will not work, let him not eat. 11 For we hear that some of you are living in idleness, mere busybodies, not doing any work. 12 Now such persons we command and exhort in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work in quietness and to earn their own living. (2 Thessalonians 3:6-12)
 
When you read the Old Testament prophets, much of their outcry is against social injustice, and since their words are coming from the very heart of God Himself, I would say that social justice is a topic which is close to God’s heart.

Here’s a really good link on Catholic teaching on social justice: it links Catholic teaching on the subject to the Old Testament prophets and sites examples of various scripture.
usccb.org/bible/understanding-the-bible/study-materials/articles/roots-of-catholic-social-teaching-found-in-the-old-testament-prophets.cfm

We are God’s creation, He is our Father; We are dear to His heart and we cannot imagine how much he loves us. With this in mind, why would God be indifferent to the suffering of another?

I remember Jesus’ teaching about the last judgement: they were blessed who helped others, and Jesus said those things we do for others, we are actually doing it for Him.
 
Concerning St.Paul I have often wondered how Paul’s teaching fits in with that of Jesus ?
And if push comes to shove which of them for Christians is the authentic voice of the father ? Son or convert ?
 
Concerning St.Paul I have often wondered how Paul’s teaching fits in with that of Jesus ?
And if push comes to shove which of them for Christians is the authentic voice of the father ? Son or convert ?
Son, every time.
 
Justice is just as important as sin to God. This is because every sin is injustice and every injustice is sin.

Injustice is when we deny someone something that is theirs by right. The right to dignity was given to all by God who made all in his image and who died for all on the cross.

When we deny someone a dignified life when it is in our power to grant it we commit injustice, and therefor sin.

-Tim-
 
Matthew 25:31-46 should answer this question quite nicely.
When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne, and all the nations will be assembled before him. And he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me, naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.’
Then the righteous will answer him and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?’
And the king will say to them in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’
Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’
Then they will answer and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?’
He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.’ And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
 
Matthew 25:31-46 should answer this question quite nicely.
Yes you beat me to it. I read the thread title and my very first thought was, “huh???” The Gospel message you quoted, answers clearly how important social justice is to God.
 
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