How long does it take to memorize the Catechism?

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How long does it take to memorize the Catechism?

I’ve heard that Lutheran catechumens have to memorize the whole Catechism in order to be full-fledged Lutherans. How does it work in the Catholic Church?

Are there mnemonics to help with memorization? Is it okay to summarize things in your own words, or should everything be done verbatim?
 
To answer part of your question, a convert to Catholicism is not required to memorize the whole catechism. It’s quite long, that really wouldn’t be practical. One should, of course, have a copy and refer to it often.
 
The catechism of the Catholic Church is a reference book. There is no need to mom or ice it. You don’t need to memorize a dictionary, phone book or encyclopedia, do you?
 
Possibly the Lutheran catechumens had their version of the Baltimore catechism, which was an abridged version of the Catholic catechism for school aged children written in question and answer format. There’s a copy online here. Catholics used it until the 60’s. We were supposed to know the answers by rote. It’s no longer in use and catechumens aren’t required to memorize anything.
 
I realize this is a bit off topic, but is it a sin to NOT believe parts of the Catechism? I have troubles with some of what it states. If I refuse to believe it, is it a sin? Am I going against the Church? Thanks for your help.

SJ
 
How long does it take to memorize the Catechism?

I’ve heard that Lutheran catechumens have to memorize the whole Catechism in order to be full-fledged Lutherans. How does it work in the Catholic Church?

Are there mnemonics to help with memorization? Is it okay to summarize things in your own words, or should everything be done verbatim?
It has an index.
 
How long does it take to memorize the Catechism?

I’ve heard that Lutheran catechumens have to memorize the whole Catechism in order to be full-fledged Lutherans. How does it work in the Catholic Church?

Are there mnemonics to help with memorization? Is it okay to summarize things in your own words, or should everything be done verbatim?
I have no idea, as I am still learning about my faith. I can throw Bible verses at you all day long though, but I don’t know the Bible verbatim. I did have just a basic outline in RCIA and I memorised that quite well. Since, when I became Catholic I had to agree to actually, you know, be Catholic.
 
I realize this is a bit off topic, but is it a sin to NOT believe parts of the Catechism? I have troubles with some of what it states. If I refuse to believe it, is it a sin? Am I going against the Church? Thanks for your help.

SJ
I think you might want to do the “Ask an Apologist” thing.
 
It seems near impossible to memorise all of it but I have an adult copy of the Catechism and “YouCat” for reference.
 
It isn’t an issue of memorizing the Catechism, but learning to think critically about the situations life puts you in so you know when and how to use the teachings in the Catechism to guide you.
 
I realize this is a bit off topic, but is it a sin to NOT believe parts of the Catechism? I have troubles with some of what it states. If I refuse to believe it, is it a sin? Am I going against the Church? Thanks for your help.

SJ
You might want to start a thread on this. It is a topic unto itself.
 
I realize this is a bit off topic, but is it a sin to NOT believe parts of the Catechism? I have troubles with some of what it states. If I refuse to believe it, is it a sin? Am I going against the Church? Thanks for your help.

SJ
It really depends on what you are having issues with. Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church. Jesus and His Church are One and the Same so the question might be asked…am I going against Jesus?
 
It’s not a sin not to believe stuff.

The sin would be to will yourself not to believe stuff when you know it’s true.

If you already believe that Jesus set up the Church and revealed to her everything needed for salvation, and set her to teach that to everybody, obviously there are some things you have to will yourself to believe even if you don’t understand how they work yet; or you have to will yourself to disbelieve the whole thing just to stay logical. On the other hand, it’s perfectly workable to say, “Well, I don’t get this, but I believe the Church in general so I’ll trust her on this.”

Beyond that, obviously there’s a big difference in the seriousness of not believing dogma and other basic Catholic teachings about faith and morals, versus disbelieving a particular expression and wording, or a particular section about a subject where the Church does not claim special teaching powers.

Of course, it’s hard to know this difference unless you know a fair amount about Catholicism already.

So I agree that you should ask an apologist about your specific area of concern with the Catechism, or let us know so we can chew it out together.

Re: your original question - In Europe, there did use to be short Catholic question-and-answer catechisms which kids would memorize before their First Communions. You hear about these in stories about saints’ lives, for example, and I’ve seen one that was in Irish, in an old book. I believe these were connected to the Short Catechism that came out from St. Robert Bellarmine.

The Baltimore Catechisms were an old series of Catholic religion primers, designed to be used one per grade level. (They were hardbacks bound in red. A very red sort of red.) Pretty much everybody had them either in Catholic school, or for weekly religion class at the parish if you attended public school. Until the 1960’s, the usual US practice was to teach kids to memorize the short answers to basic questions contained in it.

There were also parts the kids didn’t memorize, which contained instructional material related to the questions, and story questions applying the instructional material to real life. These seem kinda wacky – until you realize they’re written in the same style as canon law case studies, which traditionally had weird fictional names attached to protect privacy.

So you’d have questions for the kiddies like, “Fortunatus doesn’t want to get up on Sunday and go to church. He says God would want him to get more sleep. How would you explain to him the seriousness of missing Mass? What are some ways Fortunatus can get more sleep on Saturday night?” (I just made that one up, but it was like that.)

I just mention this, because it’s something that comes up in US Catholic culture.

If you’re interested, a lot of old Baltimore Catechism memorization questions are online. You will often find: “Why did God make you?”, because that was one of the earliest and most important ones. The answer was: “God made me to know Him, to love Him, and to serve Him in this world, and to be happy with Him forever in the next.”
 
The catechism of the Catholic Church is a reference book. There is no need to mom or ice it. You don’t need to memorize a dictionary, phone book or encyclopedia, do you?
Autocorrect at work? 😛
 
How long does it take to memorize the Catechism?

I’ve heard that Lutheran catechumens have to memorize the whole Catechism in order to be full-fledged Lutherans. How does it work in the Catholic Church?

Are there mnemonics to help with memorization? Is it okay to summarize things in your own words, or should everything be done verbatim?
As others have said, there is no need to memorize the Catechism. I have been studying the Catechism for over ten years. I’ve read it a lot. I am intimately familiar with the structure. I can generally find any topic I’m looking for without needing to use the index or table of contents. I even have certain phrases memorized. But there is no way I have even 1% of it memorized.

I’ve never heard of Lutherans having to memorize a Catechism. Perhaps the person who told you that misunderstood. You might be asked to memorize a creed, which is a statement of belief that can fit onto one page. But the whole Catechism? No.
 
As others have said, there is no need to memorize the Catechism. I have been studying the Catechism for over ten years. I’ve read it a lot. I am intimately familiar with the structure. I can generally find any topic I’m looking for without needing to use the index or table of contents. I even have certain phrases memorized. But there is no way I have even 1% of it memorized.

I’ve never heard of Lutherans having to memorize a Catechism. Perhaps the person who told you that misunderstood. You might be asked to memorize a creed, which is a statement of belief that can fit onto one page. But the whole Catechism? No.
I am not Lutheran, but I took a look at the Small Catechism before, which was to teach members of the household about God and stuff. It seems to me that the material had to be learned verbatim, because Luther wrote a long introduction and provided a set series of questions and answers about the Ten Commandments, the Creeds, important prayers, signing yourself with the cross, etc. I also happened to converse with an ex-Lutheran on the Internet, and he told me that he memorized the entire Catechism.
 
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