How long would do you think incense lingers in a building not built for incense?

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some should be denied Mass because of a medical condition so you can have incense.
No one is being denied Mass, due to their medical condition.

I’ll use my parish as an example: 3 Masses don’t use incense-Saturday Vigil, 7:30 AM, & 9:00 AM–they can choose to go to any one of these. 4 Parishes with Masses not using incense within easy driving distance (closest is 5 minutes away,furthest is 20 minutes away).

Incense Masses are advertised in the bulletin, so everyone is aware, and can plan accordingly.

Besides, YoungTradCath said:
My solution to the rare situation in which an allergic person can’t make it to as incense-free Mass is as follows:
Bold emphasis mine.
 
being denied Mass is the "solution"being offered.
de·ny (d-n)
tr.v. de·nied, de·ny·ing, de·nies
  1. To declare untrue; contradict.
  2. To refuse to believe; reject.
  3. To refuse to recognize or acknowledge; disavow.
a. To decline to grant or allow; refuse: deny the student’s request; denied the prisoner food or water.
b. To give a refusal to; turn down or away: The protesters were determined not to be denied.
c. To restrain (oneself) especially from indulgence in pleasures.
Definition:
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    4a. They have incense-free Masses.
    4b. Once again, incense-free Masses are available.
    4c. Not applicable.
So, who exactly is being denied? 🤷
 
. My solution to the rare situation in which an allergic person can’t make it to as incense-free Mass is as follows:
as stated here "he rare situation in which an allergic person can’t make it to as incense-free Mass is as follows"that is stating that some can’t make it to a incense free Mass,and there are many locations there are not 2 to 5 Mass’s on a sunday.it is being stated the person can not make it to another mass.
 
I get the feeling that once a priest has actually seen an allergic reaction, with the closed-up throat and strangulation, and especially if the victim is a child–this will knock the priest off his feet, scare him to death, and cause him to never, ever want to see this awful thing happen again.

The problem is, you never know. A few months ago, when I woke up in the middle of the night with my tongue so swollen that I couldn’t swallow–I had no idea what was happening and when I read “EMERGENCY–SEEK MEDICAL INTERVENTION IMMEDIATELY!” on Google, and read that the tongue and throat could continue to swell until I couldn’t breathe–wow, I was scared! Yes, I woke my husband up (at 2 in the morning), and we dashed to the ER, and sure enough, within a minute, I was rushed back to a room and given IV meds. The few times I’ve ever been to the ER, I have sat for over an hour in the waiting room–but NOT this time! I was overwhelmed by the speed of my treatment, which told me that I was in a dangerous and life-threatening condition.

I wasn’t allergic to anything except strawberries, and those cause me to break out in horrific hives, and so for years, I have avoided any contact with strawberries, even strawberry-flavored candies!

This allergic reaction happened out of the BLUE! I was thrown for a loop by this. Never expected it.

And I’m guessing that this happens with incense, too. A person will be at Mass enjoying the liturgy and enthusiastically joining their prayer with the priest’s prayer and loving the incense and all the great traditions, and then all of a sudden, they start feeling kind of strange and then the throat starts to tickle a little, and they get mad at themselves for getting choked up over a little bit of incense. But it gets worse and the person starts choking a little, leaves the Mass to go get a drink, but by the time they reach the drinking fountain, their throat has started to close up and they’re droolling all over their dressy outfit. And next thing they know, they’re being rushed to the ER and they have an IV sticking out their arm and the doctor is telling them that they need to avoid whatever triggered the allergic reaction because the NEXT time, it will be worse and they could die.

This is really really scary stuff. I’m betting that when this happens, priests shake their heads and say, “Hey, incense is optional, so why take a chance?”

I know it sounds so silly to some people who ask, “How is it that we were able to use incense for years and all of a sudden, people are choking to death and dying?”

Well, it’s a very different world. We have a lot of things now that we didn’t have even ten years ago, let alone 50 years ago. A lot of the foods we eat would be unrecognizable as food by our grandmas. Our entertainment is different. Our medical treatments are different, and most of us are vaccinated from our babyhood, and we routinely take meds for colds and flu that didn’t even exist 50 years ago. Some of the viruses that we are routinlely exposed to were extremely rare 50 years ago. Many people spend 13-20 hours a week online, and many of us spend more than 12 hours a day in front of a computer screen. The very air we breathe is different. Many of us spend little time outside, other than walking to our cars, and we avoid the sun like it was a monster.

Who knows which chemical or activity has rendered us overly-sensitive to various allergens and less resistant to various pathologies?

It’s really too bad, and I sympathize with those who love incense. It’s a shame that we all have to be so limited by our modern circumstances.
 
You know, with all the Masses we have had I have never once seen anyone have to go to the ER over incense. I have never seen this at any televised Mass I watch. I wonder if meteor strikes present a greater danger. Surely wheat allergy is more of a threat, or an allergy to the pew material? I know, as an allergy sufferer myself, that it can affect my sinuses, especially since I am close. However, I would no more want to give it up than I would want to give up going outside in the Spring. We do not use incense every week, but we do use it throughout the year at all special occasions. You can’t go to Mass on Easter without incense.

Offer it at one Mass and let it be known. That way those that want to avoid it can.
 
A wheat allergy could happen out of the blue. An allergy to tannins or sulfites could happen out of the blue. An allergy to the perfume on the person sitting next to you could happen out of the blue.

We should be prepared and aware of emergencies that could happen, and we should offer due accomodation such as incense-free Masses, but we should not be so afraid of our own shadow that we neglect things that are part and parcel of the spiritual patrimony of our Church for 2000 years.
 
You know, with all the Masses we have had I have never once seen anyone have to go to the ER over incense. I have never seen this at any televised Mass I watch. I wonder if meteor strikes present a greater danger. Surely wheat allergy is more of a threat, or an allergy to the pew material? I know, as an allergy sufferer myself, that it can affect my sinuses, especially since I am close. However, I would no more want to give it up than I would want to give up going outside in the Spring. We do not use incense every week, but we do use it throughout the year at all special occasions. You can’t go to Mass on Easter without incense.

Offer it at one Mass and let it be known. That way those that want to avoid it can.
Of course. You offer a practical and reasonable suggestion.

I think another suggestion is that people need to realize that they will inevitably be exposed to an allergen, and that they need to be prepared (epi pen, benadryl, etc.) and not take it personally and assume that the priest is trying to murder them if he uses incense in the Mass.

pnewton, I was only trying to point out that it’s possible that a priest might have seen something that scared him, and that’s why he is taking the extremely cautious path of never using incense. Call me naive, but I personally don’t think most priests say, “Bwoo ha ha, I’m never ever going to use incense in the Mass because I am against all the Church traditions and want everything to be modern and shiny!”

I tend to think that most priests are trying their best to do everything correctly and to the best of their ability, and trying even harder to be good shepherds and take loving care of the sheep and lambs entrusted to them.
 
The only reason I can think of as to why a church would not be “built for incense” would concern the fire alarm system and the placement of its smoke detectors. I used to attend a Byzantine parish which met in a converted two-car garage, and the incense permeated everything. It was wonderful!
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ahem.

If you mean St. Gabriel in Las Vegas, it was a three car garage

🙂

and we’ll probably build a new, larger church in another couple of years. We have a school opening this fall . . .

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