How many infallible statements are there?

[Abira]

Hi,

I was wondering how many infallible statements have ever been made.

I know about 1854 - the immaculate conception

and 1950 - the assumption of mary

I was wondering if there are any others?

also…how can the one from 1854 be infallible when the idea of infallibility was agreed on only in 1870? (I think…im not too clear on it)

S

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

Hi,

I was wondering how many infallible statements have ever been made.

I know about 1854 - the immaculate conception

and 1950 - the assumption of mary

I was wondering if there are any others?

also…how can the one from 1854 be infallible when the idea of infallibility was agreed on only in 1870? (I think…im not too clear on it)

S

There is a book full of infallible statements called Denzinger. If you are asking about specifically Excathedra statements by the pope there are the two you mention and after the gift of papal infallibility was clearly defined, some people tried to go back and see if any prior papal statements fit the requirements and there were 4 or 5 others that seem to. Remember the infallibility of Papal Excathedra statements was defined, because ther was confusion, it was not invented, discovered or instituted in 1870 as many try to imply.

 

[dal11]

Also anyone declared a saint by the pope in an infalible statement

 

[Abira]

Also anyone declared a saint by the pope in an infalible statement

is it true that some people have been ‘de-sainted’? if so, how were the statements of their sainthood infallible?

S

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

is it true that some people have been ‘de-sainted’? if so, how were the statements of their sainthood infallible?

S

No one ever canonized a Saint has been “de-sainted”

 

[Abira]

No one ever canonized a Saint has been “de-sainted”

thanks for clarifying, i’ll look into it… I had heard that st george and st christopher had been ‘desainted’ as they were based in more myth then history but this was just word of mouth, i haven’t found anything relating to these rumours as of yet except that they are related in some way to something in 1963, the CONSTITUTION ON THE SACRED LITURGY.

S

 

[Penitus]

thanks for clarifying, i’ll look into it… I had heard that st george and st christopher had been ‘desainted’ as they were based in more myth then history but this was just word of mouth, i haven’t found anything relating to these rumours as of yet except that they are related in some way to something in 1963, the CONSTITUTION ON THE SACRED LITURGY.

S

I’m fairly sure that St. Christopher was never canonized.

 

[Abira]

I’m fairly sure that St. Christopher was never canonized.

really… even though he’s referred to as such?

 

[Ani_Ibi]

What about St Valentine?

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

thanks for clarifying, i’ll look into it… I had heard that st george and st christopher had been ‘desainted’ as they were based in more myth then history but this was just word of mouth, i haven’t found anything relating to these rumours as of yet except that they are related in some way to something in 1963, the CONSTITUTION ON THE SACRED LITURGY.

S

They were simply removed from the Universal Church calendar of feasts, to make room for more widely known Saints of the last several hundred years. The feasts of St. George and St. Christopher are still found on local liturgical calendars and they are still Saints.

 

[Abira]

They were simply removed from the Universal Church calendar of feasts, to make room for more widely known Saints of the last several hundred years. The feasts of St. George and St. Christopher are still found on local liturgical calendars and they are still Saints.

ah ok, i wonder why so many people think otherwise.

S