How many of you Traditionalists

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You hold no one with respect, which is a requirement of this website.
I hold those in respect who don’t resort to slander and who don’t continually make false accusations about other people on here. I can not say that I have ever seen you make an actual argument by resorting to anything thing ever than “I believe it to be so, and therefore it is.” Saying it is right because you say so will get you nowhere on these forums, yet you continue to do this. You have accused several people of holding to false opinions when they haven’t even implied, let alone actually said that they do in fact hold those opinions. Once again, this is called slander. Is it any wonder why you get constantly lambasted by multiple people on almost every thread you post on?
 
The Southern Poverty Law Center has since listed the organization (the Benedict Center) as an anti-Semitic hate group.
The Southern Poverty Law Center is one of the most ridiculous and hateful groups out there. No intelligent individual should hold anything they say in high regard. They’ll accuse Jews themselves of being anti-semitic. Everyone is anti-semitic to them. I’m guessing you hold the ACLU in high regard too?
 
The Southern Poverty Law Center is one of the most ridiculous and hateful groups out there. No intelligent individual should hold anything they say in high regard. They’ll accuse Jews themselves of being anti-semitic. Everyone is anti-semitic to them. I’m guessing you hold the ACLU in high regard too?
You’re wrong.

The Southern Poverty Law Center was founded in 1971 as a small civil rights law firm. Today, SPLC is internationally known for its tolerance education programs, its legal victories against white supremacists and its tracking of hate groups

It got the Benedict Center’s number. Sorry.

peace
 
The Southern Poverty Law Center is one of the most ridiculous and hateful groups out there. No intelligent individual should hold anything they say in high regard.
Not to mention radically pro-abortion.
They’ll accuse Jews themselves of being anti-semitic. Everyone is anti-semitic to them.
No one could accuse Kark Keating of being a “traditionalist” catholic (at least not yet 😉 ) - yet even he points out the abismal way they go about their dreaded anti-semite lists. See his e-letter of 2-6-2007.
I’m guessing you hold the ACLU in high regard too?
Ya think you’ll get an answer to this question?

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad
 
The Southern Poverty Law Center is one of the most ridiculous and hateful groups out there. No intelligent individual should hold anything they say in high regard. They’ll accuse Jews themselves of being anti-semitic. Everyone is anti-semitic to them. I’m guessing you hold the ACLU in high regard too?
The St. Benedict Center has so many links that is hard to get additional references.

However, a little research paid off:

Here is part of an article from Time Magazine, with a link to the whole article.

Then, secondly, another letter from Keating of Catholic Forums.

Thirdly, a further web link with more information.

Lastly, Wikipedia has an article.

Time Magazine: Convinced that his cause was right, the dynamic, white-haired priest argued his case on Boston Common every Sunday afternoon for nearly six years after his excommunication-interspersing a fiery defense of “true Catholicism” with attacks on Protestants and Jews. Then, in 1958, Feeney moved his cadre of followers, who called themselves the “Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary,” from Cambridge to a rambling farm near Still River, a picture-book farming village in eastern Massachusetts. Feeney closed the doors of St. Benedict’s Center to outsiders, concentrated on the spiritual disciplining of his 86 devoted Slaves, 39 of them children.

time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,841699,00.html

catholic.com/newsletters/kke_040113.asp

romancatholicism.org/boston-jews.htm

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Feeney

Charity to everyone, and prayers for all our posters.

peace
 
For the most part, to learn and to share my Catholic experiences.

The purpose of this thread was to make a point. Many of us, whether we be “traditional”, “modern”, “progressive”, whatever, work hard to serve our parish communities.

Yet, on CAF, there is a “core” of individuals who constantly bludgeon the others around here with their high-and-mighty, know-everything-about-the-Church attitudes.

I wanted to know just how many of them actually DID something to teach their faith besides lord their knowledge over others on CAF.

The answer was loud and clear. Most of the responses from folks who DID
teach were NOT the folks that I was referring to. A few DID weigh in, mostly out of defiance.

My point is…if you know so much, why not share it where it counts? Our young Catholics who will hopefully be the mainstays of our parishes in years to come.
Brother John,

Now I understand. I apologize. I was under the assumption that maybe you were not Catholic and picking on people:)
Anyhow, you are right. I have personally met people who are supposed authorities but actually dont follow the path. I have people in my family like that. They are hypocrites.
I get worried about youth also. I look around my chuch at the elderly and get nervous when I think about who will take over the church. Im around 30 ish and its scary to see how no one who is young seem all that interested.
My church decided to start a young adult catholics group. We are hoping to get many involved and we are having a social gathering after Mass this Sunday. Im going to be on the committee and its sad to say out of 7,000 families, so far 25 are coming. Im hoping that people will just show up. Sorry to upset you.

Alicia
 
Brother John,

Now I understand. I apologize. I was under the assumption that maybe you were not Catholic and picking on people:)
Anyhow, you are right. I have personally met people who are supposed authorities but actually dont follow the path. I have people in my family like that. They are hypocrites.
I get worried about youth also. I look around my chuch at the elderly and get nervous when I think about who will take over the church. Im around 30 ish and its scary to see how no one who is young seem all that interested.
My church decided to start a young adult catholics group. We are hoping to get many involved and we are having a social gathering after Mass this Sunday. Im going to be on the committee and its sad to say out of 7,000 families, so far 25 are coming. Im hoping that people will just show up. Sorry to upset you.

Alicia
No offense taken…CAF will make you thick-skinned, if nothing else 👍
 
To the last couple posts,

Im confused. Im new to this forum and just started on the “Traditionalist” board yesterday. I cant believe what Im reading. It is all insults, anger,schismatics, pride, hypocrisy,…

I am a traditionalist in the sense that I follow the old years of the church. But I love my Pope…as the vicar of Christ we are supposed too. Who is more powerful than God? Who can defeat him? NO ONE! So how can it be said that some of the Popes were heretics? Do you disrespect God and belittle him so much to say that He can’t defend His own church? His own Bride? Stop and think for a minute.I know some of you are thinking " Well we strayed away from that and the wrong people with the wrong purpose became the leaders" ONLY IF GOD ALLOWS IT! Do you think God would allow his church to be defiled? You must not have much faith, trust and confidence in him. How about this verse.

And I say to you , you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.( Matthew 16:18)
What does that mean? That no evil shall destroy His church. That is a pretty clear mesage that the church will always be safe.

I would like to learn more about traditionalism but not like this. Im not reading anything about the church or its real beliefs. All I see is division and fighting. If we are all catholics we should give help.Read this:

I urge that there be no division among you ( 1 Cor. 1:10)

Satan attacks in many forms. In a way that you think you are defending God and his Church, you are actually defiling, condemning it, using blasphemy. Dont forget what the bible says about blasphemy.Its the unforgivable sin!
 
Satan attacks in many forms. In a way that you think you are defending God and his Church, you are actually defiling, condemning it, using blasphemy. Dont forget what the bible says about blasphemy.Its the unforgivable sin!
Welcome to CAF. I am sorry that you see such antics of those promoting their own agendas, and when the chips are down resort to personal attacks, mockery, hatred and such.

We pray for all posters who are here, and try to have charity towards them

BTW, there is no sin which is unforgiveable.

peace
 
Welcome to CAF. I am sorry that you see such antics of those promoting their own agendas, and when the chips are down resort to personal attacks, mockery, hatred and such.

We pray for all posters who are here, and try to have charity towards them

BTW, there is no sin which is unforgiveable.

peace
Hello. Yes its very important to pray for others. Faith is a gift from God. He gives it to us in measure, how He sees fit. He knows what we are ready for and what we can absorb and put to use.Some times people cant be enlightened or encouraged to change their thoughts when we try to encourage that, its because God has not given them that degree of faith or knowledge yet. So as people, we can teach the same concept over and over and see no change in someone else. Its because their degree of faith.When we pray we should ask for God to increase there faith as well as our own. Every soul has faith that starts out in baby steps, and we all move foward slowly to a greater degree of wisdom and perfection. As a Dominican, my Oder is called the Order of Preachers. We teach the word of God, defend God, defend the church, convert people and bring Catholics back home. I have personally seen the many , many levels of faith.

In the bible, it does talk of an unforgivable sin. I should know, as a Third Order Domincan I have to constanlty study Gods word and law. It talks about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit being an unforgivable sin. I will find the book, chapter and verse and post it.

Faustina Pio
 
Welcome to CAF. I am sorry that you see such antics of those promoting their own agendas, and when the chips are down resort to personal attacks, mockery, hatred and such.

We pray for all posters who are here, and try to have charity towards them

BTW, there is no sin which is unforgiveable.

peace
will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
Faustina Pio
 
mgrfin;3372762:
Welcome to CAF. I am sorry that you see such antics of those promoting their own agendas, and when the chips are down resort to personal attacks, mockery, hatred and such.

We pray for all posters who are here, and try to have charity towards them

BTW, there is no sin which is unforgiveable.

peace
will not
be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
Faustina Pio

That comes as news to me, that there is a sin that won’t be forgiven.

peace
 
That comes as news to me, that there is a sin that won’t be forgiven.
I always thought suicide was the one sin that couldn’t be forgiven.
 
Hello. Yes its very important to pray for others. Faith is a gift from God. He gives it to us in measure, how He sees fit. He knows what we are ready for and what we can absorb and put to use.Some times people cant be enlightened or encouraged to change their thoughts when we try to encourage that, its because God has not given them that degree of faith or knowledge yet. So as people, we can teach the same concept over and over and see no change in someone else. Its because their degree of faith.When we pray we should ask for God to increase there faith as well as our own. Every soul has faith that starts out in baby steps, and we all move foward slowly to a greater degree of wisdom and perfection. As a Dominican, my Oder is called the Order of Preachers. We teach the word of God, defend God, defend the church, convert people and bring Catholics back home. I have personally seen the many , many levels of faith.

In the bible, it does talk of an unforgivable sin. I should know, as a Third Order Domincan I have to constanlty study Gods word and law. It talks about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit being an unforgivable sin. I will find the book, chapter and verse and post it.

Faustina Pio
Faustino, our soul does not have faith. Faith is a gift of God. Pardon me if what you said was not your intent,“Every soul has faith that starts out in baby steps…”
 
I always thought suicide was the one sin that couldn’t be forgiven.
Well, that is one sin you don’t get much time to repent for. Still possible.

I don’t know where in the discipline in the Church, priests are told they can’t forgive this sin. It doesn’t even have an excommunication attached. What ever happened to: “Who’s sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven…”

We should pray for those whose sins are so difficult to forgive in all charity.

peace
 
To the last couple posts,

Im confused. Im new to this forum and just started on the “Traditionalist” board yesterday. I cant believe what Im reading. It is all insults, anger,schismatics, pride, hypocrisy,…
I’m sorry you’ve been scandalized - and sorry if I’ve in any way contributed to it. Sometimes the ol’ “submit reply” button gets clicked to fast, before thinking, in the heat of the moment when the passions are running high.

Try some of the threads that are not “debate” type threads. The debate type threads can get crazy.

But why do so many turn into debate threads? Well, I would say that there are a few here who seem to many to have no other purpose than to denograte traditionally minded folks and all that they hold dear (which includes many good and holy things given to us by Holy Mother Church)…and to bait them at every turn. In short, using discussion board lingo, there are some trolls about. So often, a thread will turn into a debate thread for no good reason. Traditional minded folks tend not to let grosserrors, gross misrepresentations of Church teachings, go unanswered…sometime to a fault I admit - we can become like the clanging symbol due to lack of charity. It’s a tough one for all of us.

So beware.

And beware false piety. Just take it all with a grain of salt until you have a chance to read through a couple of threads and see how it all goes down and where it starts going off the deep end. If you aren’t sure of a particular poster, click on their name and look up their post history - should give you a pretty good idea of where they are coming from.
I am a traditionalist in the sense that I follow the old years of the church. But I love my Pope…as the vicar of Christ we are supposed too. Who is more powerful than God? Who can defeat him? NO ONE! So how can it be said that some of the Popes were heretics? Do you disrespect God and belittle him so much to say that He can’t defend His own church? His own Bride? Stop and think for a minute.I know some of you are thinking " Well we strayed away from that and the wrong people with the wrong purpose became the leaders" ONLY IF GOD ALLOWS IT! Do you think God would allow his church to be defiled?
God won’t allow the shortcomings or poor actions of any pope or bishop to make His promises empty, that’s for sure. The gates of hell won’t prevail - this we know. But this doesn’t mean every personal action or personal statement of a pope is infallible and perfect.

We know Christ and His One True Church wins in the end. But we also know that the battle goes on until Christ returns in glory. And as it has always been, Satan attacks from the outside and from the inside. Souls are won and lost in the process. So we can’t just sit back and say “the Church prevails to the end, so no worries, everything is fine.” We’ve gotta be concerned for our brothers and sisters, for the human side of Holy Mother Church.

Right now there’s alot of confusion in the Church, alot of battles going on on the inside. That’s why it’s important to know the faith as it’s been handed down to us from the Apostles - the truth that does not contradict itself. That’s where most traditional minded folks are coming from.

And again, I apologize if I’'ve contributed to your concern here in any way.

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad
 
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