How much of my Requiem Mass can I control?

[Cristiano]

One more thing that I would like to mention that it is not related to the preparation for the requiem Mass but it is still part of preparation for death. It is to a good idea to notify the priest of the desire to receive the Apostolic Pardon. A recent discussion of it came up in a recent Catholic Blog by Fr. Z.

 

[TheMc]

One more thing that I would like to mention that it is not related to the preparation for the requiem Mass but it is still part of preparation for death. It is to a good idea to notify the priest of the desire to receive the Apostolic Pardon. A recent discussion of it came up in a recent Catholic Blog by Fr. Z.

Not a bad idea. I was also following this.

 

[Timothysis]

I think that personally attacking in public a Catholic for standing to what the Church teaches is uncharitable and it support heretical thinking. We all have to plan to go straight to Heaven because that is what God wishes for us. We also have to acknowledge our limitations and errors and that too is what God wants from us, and that is why we received the gift of the Holy Spirit and we must practice the Christian virtues. Sarcasm, personal attacks and name calling are basic debate fallacies that usually do not win anyone on your side and on top of that a Christian should avoid them.

I always understood that it could be sinful to presume that we are going to heaven. Heaven is not like grad school where we “plan” to end up. We achieve heaven through the mercy of Christ.

Also, to say that one “plans to go straight to heaven” IS a childish and immature thing to say as a catholic and practicing member of the Church. We celebrate the sacraments to assist us at the time of death that we may be worthy and achieve everlasting life with Christ in heaven; we do not receive them as part of our “plan” to get there. This reminds me of the fellow here who posted that he wants to go to purgatory because he would be embarrassed if he went straight to heaven. Are you going to tell me that that isn’t a childish, immature thing to say? The statement at hand is the same.

The Church teaches that the Blessed Mother was assumed body and soul into heaven. Do you think that any of us can even try to compare to that?

 

[GloriousOrder]

I always understood that it could be sinful to presume that we are going to heaven. Heaven is not like grad school where we “plan” to end up. We achieve heaven through the mercy of Christ.

Also, to say that one “plans to go straight to heaven” IS a childish and immature thing to say as a catholic and practicing member of the Church. We celebrate the sacraments to assist us at the time of death that we may be worthy and achieve everlasting life with Christ in heaven; we do not receive them as part of our “plan” to get there. This reminds me of the fellow here who posted that he wants to go to purgatory because he would be embarrassed if he went straight to heaven. Are you going to tell me that that isn’t a childish, immature thing to say? The statement at hand is the same.

The Church teaches that the Blessed Mother was assumed body and soul into heaven. Do you think that any of us can even try to compare to that?

1. A plan is a course of actions taken in totality to result in a foreseen goal. In this case, the goal is God’s holy presence, and the course consists of my sanctification. This has nothing to do with inevitability or predestination.
2. How is my stated wish anything like the wish to be in Purgatory? I want to avoid the pains of purgation by accepting God’s helping grace in destroying my disordered attachments and imperfections. I really want to go to Heaven, and the “plan” is following our Lord Jesus Christ, doing the will of His Father, receiving the sacraments He initiated in the Church, observing the works of mercy corporal and spiritual, and becoming diligent in faith, hope, charity, and love above all things. This is a goal our Lord wants us to read on Earth, because He said “Be perfect, as your Father in Heaven is perfect”. He did not say “you will be perfect”, but ordered us to be perfect. Try, try, try…

I realise that the way I phrased it was immature. I never made a claim to become mature; in fact, I am very childish about a lot of things, and this makes me sad. Improvement shall come by the help of God, our lover and our judge.

1. I did not say I will be ‘assumed into Heaven’, or even that I want to be. ‘Going straight to Heaven’ is exactly what Ss. Peter, Paul, Dominic, Francis, Ignatius, and thousands upon thousands of others did; so, in short, I “plan” (re: want, hope) to become a saint. None of us can compare to the blessed Virgin, indeed, but your dichotomy is a false one.

 

[utah_rose]

Honestly, I am going to insist that my funeral is in the EF (if it’s still around by then), because I know it will be done well. Unless I’m around to personally manage it, I just can’t trust people that a funeral will be done well in the ordinary form. It’s sad, but true. The funeral has eternal consequences, especially if you might be in purgatory for a while. I am not willing to risk it.

I love the EF Mass, but not sure that I would like a requiem Mass. I haven’t been to a requiem EF Mass for a long time but I remember that the priest wears black, and it is a VERY morose thing.

I can still remember when one of my classmates, who was nine years old at the time lost her mother. The whole school I believe went to the funeral, and I can always remember her walking behind the casket with her grandmother and a very sad piece being played on the organ.

I think I would rather have a REVERENT OF Mass, if that is possible, celebrated by a priest who knows that almost all of us go to Purgatory afterwords, not heaven, and would make sure he included prayers in his homily. I sure wouldn’t want a priest to presume I was in heaven or allow any eulogies at the Mass.

That said, I think we all should write down our wishes and let our loved ones know where this is at.

 

[GEddie]

1. I did not say I will be ‘assumed into Heaven’, or even that I want to be…

That is not available to me, of course, but oh, how I long for that or the equivalent! To leap physically into our LORD’s arms!!!

Alas, it’s obvious that I will have to expereince the full hideousness that is death; and I am too chicken to be a Martyr, and too melancholic to be a Saint; so I fully expect to do some Purgatory.

ICXC NIKA.

 

[angelic06]

One of the chief functions of the Requiem Mass is to pray for the soul of the deceased, to those who say that the funeral is mostly about the bereaved. That is why it is in the context of the Mass. It is not merely about comforting the bereaved, though that is part of it.