How pleasure can't be good?

[Tecnologgamer]

I was meditating about chasity, it’s a topic that I like to think a lot, specially nowdays and I find myself lock in some reasonings that for me I could’nt conclusion well so I looking for some help and of course see if what I think is correct.

Have pleasure is much good, the same pleasure that someone can a couple have from marriage through sex is the same that someone that look for pornography on internet. Because the body answer to the same stimulus from both situation, but one is correct and another is not for the reason that God made the sexual act where there is pleasure, but there is the mission of make a baby. Carnally speaking, both way to find this pleasure is good for anyone, but in a moral view one is wrong because take away this goal from sex. So the desire is not above the moral.

This way to thought is correct? That I want to know.

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

Pleasure is a physical and natural good.
At the same time, there are boundaries around all human activities for our own good.
For instance, food is a physical good, but overindulgence can be gluttony, or selfishness.

So, the level of pleasure from an act has no correlation to its morality.

 

[Tecnologgamer]

I see, however if someone had boundaries on porn you don’t just legitimize?

 

[Tecnologgamer]

I could understand better the difference between pleasure and moral from @0Scarlett_nidiyilii, but I think is more correct argue that looking for pornography you flee away from the goal that relations in marriage have the mission of have kids, right?

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

What boundaries on the sexual exploitation of other people’s bodies would you like?

 

[Tecnologgamer]

Then this is the gap between from a couple and someone who look for pornography or even casual sex, you want to create someone with the partner (and family and his best, in the case of a catholic couple, both want go to Heaven) and the other is just selfish and the realization of a desire?

 

[Dan_Defender]

The problem is, when you go down that road, thinking pleasure is the supreme good, soon you will be enslaved by sin and will forget about spirituality. Flesh is indeed the enemy of the spirit.

 

[Athanasiy]

Procreative act of pleasure in a family its a long term pleasure, till the end of your life, even if when you get old and loose the sence of pleasure, your pleasure will be transformed in happiness, future, joy, when later you look at your children, grandchildren.
But the pleasure from pornography it’s a perpetual starvation, unsatisfied sexual hunger, and eventually bancrupcy, and regret, may be regret for years.
Loneliness, miserability, gradual psycho deformation, and abnormal forms of gradual slow suicide in life, and in old age you ll feel your self a lonely looser in life game.

 

[DadaBigfoot]

It seems you’re operating under the belief that there is no difference between sex and self-gratification aside from teleology and which God has told us is a sin.

Science has actually shown pornography and masturbation have a great deal of negative effects on someone (besides the spiritual) that do not result from sex.

Here’s some collected research including articles regarding testosterone, among other things: www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/8ho7kj/a_scientific_look_at_masturbation_and/

www.yourbrainonporn.com is another repository of facts

There are many more sources out there, but I’m on my phone and copying and pasting is annoying. Interesting how things that are so toxic tend to be sins!

Don’t believe the media. Generally, there’s a lot of rumors about a slight positive correlation between masturbation and avoiding prostrate cancer, but very few studies, and certainly none that outweigh the negative physical, spiritual, and social effects of masturbation.