How the will can become unchangeable

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Hello brothers, is hard to me to understand how a will (a soul) can become uncheangable in evil in ten or twenty years, and this state become fixed for eternity, is very hard to understand this, I don’t want to criticize this doctrine, but I want some help
 
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I’m not sure what doctrine you’re talking about. Perhaps you could quote the source of this doctrine? There’s nothing in Church teaching that says that the will becomes unchangeable or the soul becomes unchangeable in ten or twenty years.

Furthermore, a distinction must be made between “will” and “soul.” The will is one of the properties of the soul, but it is not itself the soul.

Perhaps the reason this doctrine is so hard to understand is that it’s not actually a doctrine of the Church? Please, let us know where you heard this.

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I think you mean in the afterlife souls cannot will themselves to go from Hell to Heaven or vice versa. We do not know ‘how’ that is, all we know is free will is not the same as here on earth.
 
The will does not become unchangeable just because time passes.

But changing the will requires a process in the mind, and one may not always have sufficiently sound mind to make that change. Consider someone with unrepented sin who develops amnesia, or goes into coma, etc.!

Even if nothing like that (WE should hope) should occur, the will is unchangeable in death, because change requires time, and there is no time in death.

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I’m referring to afterlife eternal state which can be created only in 10 or 20 years here on earth with sins and passions. My question is how a soul don’t want never, for eternity, to change a state which is create in only even few days or years
 
There could be a neurological explanation, philosophical, psychological, and a spiritual one.

Every change in mental state requires a change in brain state, it’s how we function. If our brains are not changing, then neither can our minds. Obviously, when we’re dead, our brains are not changing anymore.

If we accept the philosophy of hylomorphism, which conceptualizes the human being as a composite of matter and form, the two are in stasis when separated, which happens at death. You are not a complete person and cannot naturally think, remember, imagine, or perceive without your body.

It’s conceivable that some habits or patterns of thinking can become so deeply ingrained that we cannot change them anymore by our own willpower, and in fact, we do not want to change them. As time passes, the pattern only becomes more and more reinforced, and even farther beyond the threshold of our capability to reverse.

Free will is essentially the ability of a soul to choose either for or against God, ultimately. This can manifest earlier or later in life, but it is the wilful act of a person to resist grace, to refuse to cooperate with their Maker, and this is not considered in time, but as a total sum of that soul’s existence (eternal sin). This is why even after the General Resurrection that decision is confirmed by them as an act truly imputed to them, and not imposed on them.
 
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adrian1 said:
Hello brothers, is hard to me to understand how a will (a soul) can become uncheangable in evil in ten or twenty years, and this state become fixed for eternity, is very hard to understand this, I don’t want to criticize this doctrine, but I want some help
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It is a free choice not to love.

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1861 Mortal sin is a radical possibility of human freedom, as is love itself. It results in the loss of charity and the privation of sanctifying grace, that is, of the state of grace. If it is not redeemed by repentance and God’s forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ’s kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices for ever, with no turning back. However, although we can judge that an act is in itself a grave offense, we must entrust judgment of persons to the justice and mercy of God.

392 Scripture speaks of a sin of these angels.269 This “fall” consists in the free choice of these created spirits, who radically and irrevocably rejected God and his reign. We find a reflection of that rebellion in the tempter’s words to our first parents: "You will be like God."270 The devil “has sinned from the beginning”; he is “a liar and the father of lies”.271
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I understand now my question: how a creature can resist to God love for all eternity. I understand that possibility philosophical, but Is hard to think to that staff, looks very very very hard
 
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