How to Act Towards Invalidly Married Catholics by Donald Miller

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The entire little rant about those who marry without obtaining an annulment is beyond condescending. The last paragraph is the only one ordered towards following Christ, which implies that if you are doubt as to how to relate to those in irregular marriages then err with kindness and compassion. :cool:
 
I could not bring up the article, but based on the thread title, I would treat them like people should be treated. It’s their choice and hopefully in time the couple may recognize the invalid marriage and correct it.
 
I could not bring up the article, but based on the thread title, I would treat them like people should be treated. It’s their choice and hopefully in time the couple may recognize the invalid marriage and correct it.
That begs a question however, this article focused on divorced and remarried Catholics/former Catholics. How would you suggest they correct the issue?

If an annulment can’t be granted to their first sacramental marriage, then should they divorce their second spouse as a result?
 
Thank you for sharing this very informative article. It’s nice to know that this was published in the 1950’s.
 
It wouldnt matter if it was published in the 50’s it still holds true today, even more so. The book of the New Testament were written how many years ago? Or papal encyclicals of the past? There is a continuance througout the history of the Church. Now your welcome to add to this solid document with the writings and letters that happened after it, but it doesnt diminish this document.
 
It wouldnt matter if it was published in the 50’s it still holds true today, even more so. The book of the New Testament were written how many years ago? Or papal encyclicals of the past? There is a continuance througout the history of the Church. Now your welcome to add to this solid document with the writings and letters that happened after it, but it doesnt diminish this document.
I agree. I add more weight to documents such as this that were published before the Council because they usually are less superficial than many documents published after the Council.
 
I agree. I add more weight to documents such as this that were published before the Council because they usually are less superficial than many documents published after the Council.
Yes, for the most part I agree. Some of these older documents and writings are much more clear cut, easy to read and understand. Of course with the internet its always good to be careful that you are reading from a solid source as well.
 
Yes, for the most part I agree. Some of these documents and writings are much more clear cut, easy to read and understand. Of course with the internet its always good to be careful that you are reading from a solid source as well.
Very true. Many online sites have erroneous articles and some may even have been written before the Council.
 
That begs a question however, this article focused on divorced and remarried Catholics/former Catholics. How would you suggest they correct the issue?

If an annulment can’t be granted to their first sacramental marriage, then should they divorce their second spouse as a result?
I understand it is difficult to answer, but isn’t there another option such as living as brother and sister? Just asking.
 
Father Miller was a remarkable talent; Liguori Press, of which he was a driving force, was a remarkable gift for the Church in the United States and the English-speaking world beyond…most especially its publications after Vatican II.

This pamphlet, however, is a product of its time – and, even then, various conclusions drawn and various applications proposed would not have been universally accepted by moral theologians worthy of the name…especially in what concerns attribution of mortal sin or what should be construed as cooperation with moral evil.

Moreover, many of the practices this pamphlet evokes were extremely injurious to family relationships while having quite the opposite effect to being a remedy (or even moving toward a remedy) regarding a person who had ruptured their communion with the Church. Priests have horror stories of trying to heal situations of a person’s contentious relationship with the Church that trace back to these very suggestions and their like…namely, that they be shunned.

I have personally dealt with far too many of them, tragically. This approach led to all sorts of misinformation and truly sad situations where people who were but a few steps from an irregular situation being regularised labored under the idea that the Church door was forever closed to them. They were amazed what little had to be done…but their mistaken concepts had kept them away from the Church for decades because, after all, their family had disowned them.

The Church’s pastoral practices have changed. What is normal now, in terms of pastoral care for the divorced and remarried, would not have been at all the practice in the 1950s. The principles of pastoral theology are not the same as, for example, dogmatic or sacramental theology where doctrinal formulations vary little, if at all.

Nostra Aetate, Unitatis Redintegratio, Dignitatis Humanae, and other conciliar documents fundamentally altered, in a positive way, how we approach and deal with a variety of situations pastorally – and this foundation in turn has been built upon and expanded by the popes during and after the council…in their documents, addresses, and the examples they have set for all of us.

In many cases, the effectiveness of a pastoral practice was re-evaluated in light of new developments, either from pastoral theology itself or from ancillary disciplines. This can result in conclusions that give those who have the care of souls a very different orientation from such as this pamphlet articulates.

This pamphlet today would certainly not guide me in my pastoral work or my advice to those seeking counsel…it has simply been superseded by other realities. To take but one example, “It would be seriously wrong to offer hospitality, assistance or facilities for the honeymoon of the invalidly married Catholic” would place one, in every country I am acquainted with, in direct violation of civil law on discrimination in public accommodation (which is a very different threshold from what was legal and socially acceptable in the 1950s)…as if the hotel clerk, travel agent or airline personnel could discern that the couple were invalidly married Catholics on their honeymoon or that they should even attempt to do so.

We do not live in the 1950s nor is our society and its conventions based upon that era.
 
It’s impossible to tell how this pamphlet has led others to Christ. If it hurt them it was because they didnt want to listen.

No where does it say in the writing that the Catholic Church has closed its door on anyone.

While pastoral practice may have implemented some new and improved tactics there is nothing wrong with implementing the old way per say. Everyone is different, so different ways to evangelize and work with people will work differenty Am I wrong here?

Nostra Aetate, Unitatis Redintegratio, Dignitatis Humanae…I am still confused how that would make this writing somehow not beneficial?

“It would be seriously wrong to offer hospitality, assistance or facilities for the honeymoon of the invalidly married Catholic” he is talking about the close family members, not workers at a hotel.

So just because we read and live an encyclical, saints writing, or a writing from the past we are living during that time or somehow out of date. Truth is truth and doesnt have a time or place.

How you want to evangelize is up to you.

To me this writing is one of mercy. It lays out excellent ways to bring a sinner to conversion. The writing is clear and points out many points of mercy and love that we can give to our brothers while not giving scandal. The sin of scandal has become all too prevalent in our day.
 
From the linked writing above -

THE first is that of erroneously making the danger of scandal a reason for cutting off every form of charity to the sinner and thus practically slamming the door against his return to the grace of God. This is sometimes motivated more by selfishness and resentment than by any real spiritual desire to avoid scandal. Thus, a Catholic family, naturally feeling that it has been deeply disgraced by the defection of one of its members who has entered an invalid marriage, might be merely expressing its personal resentment in withholding all signs of charity toward that person. Thus, they may so embitter the one fallen, and the illicit partner who may be more or less ignorant of the evil of the marriage, that even if both became free to marry validly, or able in some other way to escape their sinful state, they would not do so.

But apart from such things, a certain amount of social contact may be kept up so long as there is a flicker of hope of being able to help the person spiritually in the end. In such contacts, the friend or relative will use opportunities to urge the invalidly married Catholic to pray daily, to attend Mass, at least on Sundays, to read spiritual books that may eventually provide the motives for a break with sin. It should be remembered that nagging, that is, using every opportunity to berate, condemn and scold the person, will never accomplish much, except perhaps to stiffen him in the rejection of grace.
 
Father Miller was a remarkable talent; Liguori Press, of which he was a driving force, was a remarkable gift for the Church in the United States and the English-speaking world beyond…most especially its publications after Vatican II.

This pamphlet, however, is a product of its time – and, even then, various conclusions drawn and various applications proposed would not have been universally accepted by moral theologians worthy of the name…especially in what concerns attribution of mortal sin or what should be construed as cooperation with moral evil.

Moreover, many of the practices this pamphlet evokes were extremely injurious to family relationships while having quite the opposite effect to being a remedy (or even moving toward a remedy) regarding a person who had ruptured their communion with the Church. Priests have horror stories of trying to heal situations of a person’s contentious relationship with the Church that trace back to these very suggestions and their like…namely, that they be shunned.

I have personally dealt with far too many of them, tragically. This approach led to all sorts of misinformation and truly sad situations where people who were but a few steps from an irregular situation being regularised labored under the idea that the Church door was forever closed to them. They were amazed what little had to be done…but their mistaken concepts had kept them away from the Church for decades because, after all, their family had disowned them.

The Church’s pastoral practices have changed. What is normal now, in terms of pastoral care for the divorced and remarried, would not have been at all the practice in the 1950s. The principles of pastoral theology are not the same as, for example, dogmatic or sacramental theology where doctrinal formulations vary little, if at all.

Nostra Aetate, Unitatis Redintegratio, Dignitatis Humanae, and other conciliar documents fundamentally altered, in a positive way, how we approach and deal with a variety of situations pastorally – and this foundation in turn has been built upon and expanded by the popes during and after the council…in their documents, addresses, and the examples they have set for all of us.

In many cases, the effectiveness of a pastoral practice was re-evaluated in light of new developments, either from pastoral theology itself or from ancillary disciplines. This can result in conclusions that give those who have the care of souls a very different orientation from such as this pamphlet articulates.

This pamphlet today would certainly not guide me in my pastoral work or my advice to those seeking counsel…it has simply been superseded by other realities. To take but one example, “It would be seriously wrong to offer hospitality, assistance or facilities for the honeymoon of the invalidly married Catholic” would place one, in every country I am acquainted with, in direct violation of civil law on discrimination in public accommodation (which is a very different threshold from what was legal and socially acceptable in the 1950s)…as if the hotel clerk, travel agent or airline personnel could discern that the couple were invalidly married Catholics on their honeymoon or that they should even attempt to do so.

We do not live in the 1950s nor is our society and its conventions based upon that era.
👍 Thank you for providing clarity Father.
 
I know the Church teaches that once you become Catholic you are always Catholic, even if one no longer practices the faith. I read through the pamphlet, and I’m curious. Does anyone know if the pamphlet is concerned solely with practicing Catholics in invalid marriages, or does it also include it also include so-called “fallen away” Catholics and apostates from Catholicism in invalid marraiges?
 
I know the Church teaches that once you become Catholic you are always Catholic, even if one no longer practices the faith. I read through the pamphlet, and I’m curious. Does anyone know if the pamphlet is concerned solely with practicing Catholics in invalid marriages, or does it also include it also include so-called “fallen away” Catholics and apostates from Catholicism in invalid marraiges?
The pamphlet is “advice” from the 1950s. It is not Doctrine or Tradition.

Read Fr Don’s excellent post above regarding this pamphlet.
 
I know the Church teaches that once you become Catholic you are always Catholic, even if one no longer practices the faith. I read through the pamphlet, and I’m curious. Does anyone know if the pamphlet is concerned solely with practicing Catholics in invalid marriages, or does it also include it also include so-called “fallen away” Catholics and apostates from Catholicism in invalid marraiges?
The article pertains to lapsed Catholics and apostates in invalid marriages as well.
 
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