Not trying to stereotype an entire group because I don’t think same-sex attraction determines moral views or religious beliefs. However, I have known ‘some’ in the homosexual pro-life cause doing so in companion with adoption by same-sex couples. More ‘unplanned’ pregnancies being carried to term means a trickle-down effect into increased adoptions. If heterosexual couples can’t match the demands, a shortage of adopting parents exists, and same-sex couples wanting to adopt cite that shortage as a reason why allowing them to adopt serves the greater good.It also implies that all gay people support abortion rights. I have met quite a few homosexuals who are pro life and do not buy into a packaged set of beliefs that someone fed them in college or on a sit-com.
Are you saying that pro-life homosexuals are just being pro-life because they want kids of their own? Do you realize how offensive an accusation that is to make? What evidence do you have, to make such an extreme claim?Not trying to stereotype an entire group because I don’t think same-sex attraction determines moral views or religious beliefs. However, I have known ‘some’ in the homosexual pro-life cause doing so in companion with adoption by same-sex couples. More ‘unplanned’ pregnancies being carried to term means a trickle-down effect into increased adoptions. If heterosexual couples can’t match the demands, a shortage of adopting parents exists, and same-sex couples wanting to adopt cite that shortage as a reason why allowing them to adopt serves the greater good.
But discussing the merits of same-sex couples adopting children is an entirely different thread…
Please read the first two-three sentences of my post that you are quoting. I am in no way making the claim that all homosexuals are pro-life solely because of adoptions. I have spoken with several people (while in college and in my career) who were homosexual and pro-life, and who brought up adoption as a reason for their pro-life views (not all of them were religious). I’m sorry if it came across as a generalization, but I tried to be very clear that I had some personal anecdotal stories of ‘some’ people with those views.Are you saying that pro-life homosexuals are just being pro-life because they want kids of their own? Do you realize how offensive an accusation that is to make? What evidence do you have, to make such an extreme claim?
And, again, not generalizing or labeling an entire segment of the population, but a quick internet search turned up the Facebook group “Don’t Abort; Let a Gay Couple Adopt” - the page has 100 likes, so I would venture to say that ‘some’ people use adoption by same-sex couples as a reason to support the pro-life movement. Not the only reason, and not all homosexuals, just some undefined number greater than 1 and less than 7 billion.Are you saying that pro-life homosexuals are just being pro-life because they want kids of their own? Do you realize how offensive an accusation that is to make? What evidence do you have, to make such an extreme claim?
Understood. I didn’t mean to bite your head off, but I do think you ought to be careful about anything that could be interpreted to mean this sort of thing in the future, even couched in the best of qualifications. Pro-life gay people have enough flak they receive from their liberal friends, without the perception that they have ulterior motives being tossed about.Please read the first two-three sentences of my post that you are quoting. I am in no way making the claim that all homosexuals are pro-life solely because of adoptions. I have spoken with several people (while in college and in my career) who were homosexual and pro-life, and who brought up adoption as a reason for their pro-life views (not all of them were religious). I’m sorry if it came across as a generalization, but I tried to be very clear that I had some personal anecdotal stories of ‘some’ people with those views.
Interesting. Though that FB group doesn’t strike me as pro-life. A pro-life position is a position that claims that killing embryos should be considered legal murder – or, at the very least, that the restrictions on such actions should be very significant. But the people in the FB group above might not even be bonafide pro-choicers.And, again, not generalizing or labeling an entire segment of the population, but a quick internet search turned up the Facebook group “Don’t Abort; Let a Gay Couple Adopt” - the page has 100 likes, so I would venture to say that ‘some’ people use adoption by same-sex couples as a reason to support the pro-life movement. Not the only reason, and not all homosexuals, just some undefined number greater than 1 and less than 7 billion.
I agree it is a delicate subject, and again, I’m sorry if my wording above did not clearly represent that the statements were anecdotal and not to be broadly applied. I simply wanted to highlight that particular mindset I have encountered among homosexuals as a way of explaining to Aunty A that, while it is not uncommon for homosexuals to be pro life, some are supportive outside of religious reasons.Understood. I didn’t mean to bite your head off, but I do think you ought to be careful about anything that could be interpreted to mean this sort of thing in the future, even couched in the best of qualifications. Pro-life gay people have enough flak they receive from their liberal friends, without the perception that they have ulterior motives being tossed about.
The issue you brought up reminded me of the play or story about a gay person standing against abortion because parents were finding out their unborn child had a “gay gene” and were aborting the child because they didn’t want a gay child…it also reminds me of the brilliant and astute focus in the Feminists for Life group on how females have become the major target worldwide for being aborted, for example-China? By contrast, did the pro-choice feminists ever imagine such a tragedy for women?I agree it is a delicate subject, and again, I’m sorry if my wording above did not clearly represent that the statements were anecdotal and not to be broadly applied. I simply wanted to highlight that particular mindset I have encountered among homosexuals as a way of explaining to Aunty A that, while it is not uncommon for homosexuals to be pro life, some are supportive outside of religious reasons.
Whatever one’s reasoning, I know there is always a lot of supporters from the homosexual community at the March for Life in DC, and I don’t find that peculiar.
Precisely! Did you see the thread about the State Senate of California squashing a bill in committee that would ban abortions based on the sex of the baby? Look back at the history of the abortion movement in America and you see it is targeting minorities and women.It all points out to me the lack of long range thinking and insight when people hop on the bandwagon and buy an entire political movement that looks appealing but conceals a few important and dangerous “line items”.