How would your values change if your beliefs about God changed?

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Suppose you came to believe that no scripture deserved to be considered as God’s special revelation, or that God had no particular opinions about morality, or even that God had no self-awareness at all. How would you think about morality then, and what would your moral opinions look like?
 
If such were true, man’s only logical morality would be “What is best for self?”.

Maybe one would choose to do good things, but only because it makes the self feel good or somehow benefits one’s self. There is no reason not to do bad things, so long as it doesn’t have negative consequences for one’s self.

In fact, good and bad become irrelevant terms. There is only what pleases me and what doesn’t.

Becoming your own god is the only logical alternative, because nothing else matters. 🤷
 
If such were true, man’s only logical morality would be “What is best for self?”.

Maybe one would choose to do good things, but only because it makes the self feel good or somehow benefits one’s self. There is no reason not to do bad things, so long as it doesn’t have negative consequences for one’s self.

In fact, good and bad become irrelevant terms. There is only what pleases me and what doesn’t.

Becoming your own god is the only logical alternative, because nothing else matters. 🤷
How would you understand “self” in this scenario? We’d have to explore that in order to clarify what is best, right?
 
If such were true, man’s only logical morality would be “What is best for self?”.

Maybe one would choose to do good things, but only because it makes the self feel good or somehow benefits one’s self. There is no reason not to do bad things, so long as it doesn’t have negative consequences for one’s self.

In fact, good and bad become irrelevant terms. There is only what pleases me and what doesn’t.

Becoming your own god is the only logical alternative, because nothing else matters. 🤷
This is as ridiculous as it is offensive. You’ll find there are several Atheistic systems across history hanging from the Samurai code to Communism that have very strict ethical systems regarding communal support, self sacrifice for others, loyalty, harm and benefit to a community, mercy and so on and so forth.

I think what you’re getting at is sexual immorality here. Just because people will have more sex it does not mean they will feel equally compelled to rob shops and kill.

If anything, I’ve found some atheists to have far stricter moral codes than religious! Since this life is the only one to them they strive even harder to make this world a better place to live in for everyone. Religious morality on the otherhand is often far less concerned with doing right and wrong and more concerned with “Will XXX deity punish me if I do this?”

It’s true the idea of a disinterested God may motivate some to do whatever they please and hurt others, but quite frankly you get many Catholics across history like that too (Isabella of Castile, Alexander VI, Leo X, Pius IX and Hitler being a few infamous examples of Catholics abusing power for their own gain; or just pick any of the clerics involved in the sex abuse cases). Religion does not equal morality.
 
Suppose you came to believe that no scripture deserved to be considered as God’s special revelation, or that God had no particular opinions about morality, or even that God had no self-awareness at all. How would you think about morality then, and what would your moral opinions look like?
I imagine my thoughts about morality and what my moral opinions would look like would be identical to what they were before turning back to God.
 
Suppose you came to believe that no scripture deserved to be considered as God’s special revelation, or that God had no particular opinions about morality, or even that God had no self-awareness at all. How would you think about morality then, and what would your moral opinions look like?
I suspect that my system of morality would change very little…except for the fact that I would probably be more likely to sleep later on Sunday morning.
 
Suppose you came to believe that no scripture deserved to be considered as God’s special revelation, or that God had no particular opinions about morality, or even that God had no self-awareness at all. How would you think about morality then, and what would your moral opinions look like?
Behaviour for me not much had changed since I lost the conviction that the Christian god-concept was factual. But the change in view had happened over time and a lot of my views on morality were and still are anchored on empathy.

I did find that religious based arguments such as “XXX is bad because Yahweh says it is” no longer are persuasive to me.
 
If such were true, man’s only logical morality would be “What is best for self?”.
That is not correct since it was so then accepting the idea of God is also based on self interest. The same applies to the rest of your post.
 
Suppose you came to believe that no scripture deserved to be considered as God’s special revelation, or that God had no particular opinions about morality, or even that God had no self-awareness at all. How would you think about morality then, and what would your moral opinions look like?
It depends. For those who are love God and love their neighbors as Christ taught then their morality derived from their core goodness would not change much if a all. On the other hand those whose mortality is based mostly on an irrational fear of God would likely change drastically.

Read the writing of Epictetus, a Stoic philosopher who lived in Rome during the 2nd century. Just replace, in your mind, any reference to Zeus to God or Jesus. If you do, I think you will believe he exemplifies a devote Christian. His writings about God are derived solely from his powers of reasoning.
 
. . . “XXX is bad because Yahweh says it is” no longer are persuasive to me.
Famous last words echoing from the beginning of human time.

As to the OP:
What would happen before I changed my beliefs, is the more interesting question to me.
If I had a stroke preventing me from putting a thought together, I suppose I might also be drooling on myself.
Sin has a characteristic that in order to feel comfortable with it, one changes, distorts one’s conscience. I can see coveting something so badly - lusting, afraid and angry, that I would pursue it, over the edge into oblivion. Turn out the lights, you don’t see the dirt. And, then you crash.

maybe more on this later, work calls
 
Suppose you came to believe that no scripture deserved to be considered as God’s special revelation, or that God had no particular opinions about morality, or even that God had no self-awareness at all. How would you think about morality then, and what would your moral opinions look like?
Theoretically, many of my moral beliefs would remain the same, since they are not solely justified by scripture (the exception being certain elements of positive law, ie. that one must attend Mass on Sunday).

In practice, the Christian tradition, even where it makes natural law arguments that are philosophically independent of revelation, is informed by revelation. By revelation we know in what sort of things a proper ethical theory will consist, and that informs are inquiry. Aristotle, I think, had his metaethics correct, but I do not accept all of his ethical conclusions. Some of them conflict with Christianity, but I believe they can be given independent reasons for their falsity.

As for how my moral beliefs would differ if God differed–I regard that as a counterfactual with an impossible antecedent. God is Goodness Itself, and what is moral for us is what he wills of us as a matter of willing our existence as beings with particular natures. God cannot lack moral opinions. If he did, then he would not be Goodness Itself, and so would not be God. And if he created “us” with different natures (and so different ends), then we would not be “us.”
 
Suppose you came to believe that no scripture deserved to be considered as God’s special revelation, or that God had no particular opinions about morality, or even that God had no self-awareness at all. How would you think about morality then, and what would your moral opinions look like?
They would probably look very much as they did before, somewhat altered to accomodate my sinfulness, but fundamentally the same.

As the old saw goes, "You can take the boy out of the Church, but you can’t take the church out of the boy … "

In fact, many a boy, including this one, found his way back into the church because he had never really left it altogether.
 
I’d be a cultural Catholic, voting for partial birth abortion rights and blocking the “born alive” votes to give a reprieve to babies who escape the abortion procedure and I’d snitch stuff from others because I’m in need and my need is greater and I’d promote privilege for special groups who are more equal before the law and I’d download copyrighted materials because why should those rich rockers get another Ferrari and I’d fit right in with the American Catholic Church, colloquially called AmChurch. God forbid…😊 It’s Dawson’s “Secular Christian.”
 
If such were true, man’s only logical morality would be “What is best for self?”.

Maybe one would choose to do good things, but only because it makes the self feel good or somehow benefits one’s self. There is no reason not to do bad things, so long as it doesn’t have negative consequences for one’s self.

In fact, good and bad become irrelevant terms. There is only what pleases me and what doesn’t.

Becoming your own god is the only logical alternative, because nothing else matters. 🤷
Depends on how one interprets “best for self”. Best for self also includes making things better for those you care about and quite often for those you dislike. Morality would come from the question “what if someone did this to me?”
 
Depends on how one interprets “best for self”. Best for self also includes making things better for those you care about and quite often for those you dislike. Morality would come from the question “what if someone did this to me?”
But there is no point in morality if you can get away with anything.
 
But there is no point in morality if you can get away with anything.
But it is a fallacy to think that one could get away with anything. How one treats others determines how others treat them. The point would be to make the world a better place.
 
But there is no point in morality if you can get away with anything.
Getting away isn’t necessarily the motivation for some one establishing morality. Application of the Golden or platinum rule is an often referenced guideline. But the boundaries of what is included in the objects/subjects of one’s concern is significant. It could one’s self, family, community, be based on some in-group/out group duvisions, and may even reach into including animals, future generations, and even ecosystems. A person may develop behavioural rules intended to protect or improve the lives of those included as subjects/out beats of concern.
 
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