Humanae Vitae Revisited

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Its amazing that I am currently reading Fr. Paul Marx’s auto biography ‘faithful for life’ and he actually mentions priests who were againt the Humane Vitae and dissented. He was the founder of HLC - Human life International.

I believe we all know inherently what the church is teaching, we try to argue to suit our wants and desires. Lets not do that. Do not touch a foetus in you, because he/she is a human being, another life, and must be sheltered and protected. The message is simple. If you are dying and you seek a cure which kills the foetus that is ok, but if you kill the foetus so you will prolong your life that is a big NO NO.

I guess where I am a bit confused is if the doctor told you there is 99% chance that by giving you this medicine to cure your disease, the side effect would kill your three month old foetus ( cause a miscarriage) should you go ahead with the treatment? when at the back of your mind you know that each sip of the medicine is killing the foetus. Can you rid yourself of the guilt if you do suffer miscarriage?

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The priests who dissented and some theologians. That was the problem in 1968. That led to seminaries telling prospective priests in the 1970s that ‘birth control’ was a personal conscience issue. That’s how it became watered down.

God bless,
Ed
 
The priests who dissented and some theologians. That was the problem in 1968. That led to seminaries telling prospective priests in the 1970s that ‘birth control’ was a personal conscience issue. That’s how it became watered down.

God bless,
Ed
There was a LOT of dissent. Because of the euphoria of Vatican II, many seminary professors expected, nearly demanded, that the teaching on birth control would change. They also told their students to expect that soon after ordination, the Church would change the discipline of celibacy, allowing them to marry. That didn’t happen either. I am personally aware of several newly ordained priests of the period who wrote the Vatican naively asking for dispensation to marry while remaining in the priesthood. But there were thousands. Some of their long-winded letters were an embarrassment of sophomoric writing. Needless to say, that didn’t happen, and thousands of priests left the priesthood, as a result of false expectations pumped up by dissenting theologians…
 
Hi JimG,

It wasn’t the euphoria of Vatican II. It was the hype being put out by the dissenters who saw this as their big chance to push through their idea of reforms. Somehow Vatican II has become a scapegoat. It was disobedient theologians who ran a full page ad against Humanae Vitae in the New York Times, not the Church. That led to the rest of the dominos falling and it was supported by the planned secular attack on American morals of the time.

God bless,
Ed
 
Hi JimG,

It wasn’t the euphoria of Vatican II. It was the hype being put out by the dissenters who saw this as their big chance to push through their idea of reforms. Somehow Vatican II has become a scapegoat. It was disobedient theologians who ran a full page ad against Humanae Vitae in the New York Times, not the Church. That led to the rest of the dominos falling and it was supported by the planned secular attack on American morals of the time.

God bless,
Ed
I agree with you there. Vatican II, as one can see by reading its documents, was orthodox in doctrine. But many of the periti and hangers on were having a field day pushing change.
 
In addition to the dissenting theologians and poor seminary teaching, there was a lack of diligence in promoting Humanae Vitae. Immediately after its issuance several priests in the archdiocese of Philadelphia were suspended by their bishop for rejecting it. They appealed to Rome and were ordered reinstated. The bishop was ordered to use pastoral counseling rather than judicial punishments to correct such problems.

Everyone got the message. There after new bishops were selected for their pastoral counseling style. Priests used counseling for people who confessed the use of contraceptives. The idea of mortal sin in need of forgiveness got lost.

This went well for many years, until it blew up now when people disapproved of bishops who used the pastoral counseling approach in dealing with priests who abused minors.
 
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