Humanism- Can I hold that it is bad

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In history class we have started learning about Humanism, defined as aspiring to human goals and accolades rather than focusing on God and giving Him the glory. Is it okay that I am against it after what I have read of it in a Catholic history book, as well as in history class?
 
In history class we have started learning about Humanism, defined as aspiring to human goals and accolades rather than focusing on God and giving Him the glory. Is it okay that I am against it after what I have read of it in a Catholic history book, as well as in history class?
I would think that’s a fairly narrow definition of humanism, to be honest. There can be a good humanism that’s in line with the Church. More expansively, we might say humanism is a philosophy which recognizes the value and agency of human beings, and insofar as this is done in recognition of the fact that we are created in the image and likeness of God, humanism can be a good thing. We most often associate it with the arts and sciences and the promotion thereof, and the Church has always been one to do that. Promoting the use of our God-given gifts wouldn’t be wrong, I wouldn’t think.

-Fr ACEGC
 
In history class we have started learning about Humanism, defined as aspiring to human goals and accolades rather than focusing on God and giving Him the glory. Is it okay that I am against it after what I have read of it in a Catholic history book, as well as in history class?
Depends on what you mean with being against it. You’re free to disagree with everything and everyone you like. Just don’t try to outlaw humanism and we’ll get along fine. 👍
 
Depends on what you mean with being against it. You’re free to disagree with everything and everyone you like. Just don’t try to outlaw humanism and we’ll get along fine. 👍
Even in my perfect theocracy, the only “religion” outlawed would be devil worship.
 
I would think that’s a fairly narrow definition of humanism, to be honest. There can be a good humanism that’s in line with the Church. More expansively, we might say humanism is a philosophy which recognizes the value and agency of human beings, and insofar as this is done in recognition of the fact that we are created in the image and likeness of God, humanism can be a good thing. We most often associate it with the arts and sciences and the promotion thereof, and the Church has always been one to do that. Promoting the use of our God-given gifts wouldn’t be wrong, I wouldn’t think.

-Fr ACEGC
The teacher didn’t explain it that way! And though she’s very nice, I think she actually believes, as does our textbook, that indulgences are sold.
 
Even in my perfect theocracy, the only “religion” outlawed would be devil worship.
What of parody “religions”? For example, Last Thursdayism, Pastafarianism, etc.

Also, you might want to check out the State of Deseret, a Mormon idea for a theocracy-democracy (“theodemocracy”). More or less, it is run by Christian morality as the Mormon settlers saw it (strict, but not unlike ours, I guess). It would work because people of all faiths would be allowed to settle and vote, but it was never completed, obviously since Utah is there today.

Of course, the United States did not like people encroaching on their land so they started a large conflict (the Utah War).
 
The teacher didn’t explain it that way! And though she’s very nice, I think she actually believes, as does our textbook, that indulgences are sold.
Then perhaps you should look into some other resources about what humanism is and whether there can be a good and a Christian humanism. Perhaps you should ask your teacher about this as well.

-Fr ACEGC
 
What of parody “religions”? For example, Last Thursdayism, Pastafarianism, etc.

Also, you might want to check out the State of Deseret, a Mormon idea for a theocracy-democracy (“theodemocracy”). More or less, it is run by Christian morality as the Mormon settlers saw it (strict, but not unlike ours, I guess). It would work because people of all faiths would be allowed to settle and vote, but it was never completed, obviously since Utah is there today.

Of course, the United States did not like people encroaching on their land so they started a large conflict (the Utah War).
Last Thursdayism? That’s a new one. I have a friend who claims to be a Last Tuesdayist.

Ed 🙂
 
St Thomas More, Erasmus and a number of others Catholics of that era were known as humanists. Why not ask your teacher about them? You could also look them up yourself, see what they believed and suggest to your teacher that that might be an alternative definition of humanism.
 
The teacher didn’t explain it that way! And though she’s very nice, I think she actually believes, as does our textbook, that indulgences are sold.
When people talk about humanism nowadays, they often mean secular humanism. I think edward_george is talking about renaissance-humanism that included good catholics like Thomas More and Desiderius Erasmus.
 
When people talk about humanism nowadays, they often mean secular humanism. I think edward_george is talking about renaissance-humanism that included good catholics like Thomas More and Desiderius Erasmus.
And heretics as well, if I be not mistaken.
 
Many humanists today are atheistic, and that is bad philosophy.
 
In history class we have started learning about Humanism, defined as aspiring to human goals and accolades rather than focusing on God and giving Him the glory. Is it okay that I am against it after what I have read of it in a Catholic history book, as well as in history class?
Dear friend,

It’s more than okay to oppose atheistic humanism. Obviously, everything should be done as a means to attain union with God, so humanistic principles done in union with Catholic teaching, and for God are indeed very good.

You are probably learning about the rise of secularism in Europe, about 1400-1600. Though humanism is a good thing in the sense that the Church benefitted from technology to travel and do missionary work, make beautiful paintings and sculptures, and increase literacy to read holy and pious books, there is always a negative side to this as well.

So you can oppose this if it’s meant to replace union with God.

Though your textbook may be created by a catholic book company, it may still have biases in favor of secularism and religious indifferentism. It might also have “BCE” and “CE” instead of “BC” and “AD”, which can indicate that it isn’t very catholic.

PS. I had AP world history at a public high school, and I can relate to you 🙂
And here’s an article on humanism from the Catholic perspective:
catholic.com/encyclopedia/humanism
 
Dear friend,

It’s more than okay to oppose atheistic humanism. Obviously, everything should be done as a means to attain union with God, so humanistic principles done in union with Catholic teaching, and for God are indeed very good.

You are probably learning about the rise of secularism in Europe, about 1400-1600. Though humanism is a good thing in the sense that the Church benefitted from technology to travel and do missionary work, make beautiful paintings and sculptures, and increase literacy to read holy and pious books, there is always a negative side to this as well.

So you can oppose this if it’s meant to replace union with God.

Though your textbook may be created by a catholic book company, it may still have biases in favor of secularism and religious indifferentism. It might also have “BCE” and “CE” instead of “BC” and “AD”, which can indicate that it isn’t very catholic.

PS. I had AP world history at a public high school, and I can relate to you 🙂
And here’s an article on humanism from the Catholic perspective:
catholic.com/encyclopedia/humanism
I am at a public high school. I’m have the Catholic book because I near went insane in 8th grade, thanks to my teacher.
 
I am at a public high school. I’m have the Catholic book because I near went insane in 8th grade, thanks to my teacher.
Hi,

I’m very sorry to hear that. Did 8th grade cause trouble because it planted seeds of doubt, and that’s why you wanted to get a Catholic textbook, for apologetics?
 
Hi,

I’m very sorry to hear that. Did 8th grade cause trouble because it planted seeds of doubt, and that’s why you wanted to get a Catholic textbook, for apologetics?
Not really. The doubts I had mainly stemmed from an atheist video I watched. I already doubted after he insulted religious belief(I never saw his arguments).

I got the textbook because I wanted the truth on Catholic history. I got these three books:

History of the Catholic Church,
How the Catholic Church built Western Civilization,
And 7 Lies about Catholic History.

History of the Catholic Church is the textbook.
 
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