Humble or Selfish?

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On another thread someone wanted to know how to be and stay humble, someone else put in the Litany of Humility (beautiful), as I read it I felt that in my situation I wasn’t being humble. How can we remain humble yet want respect, love, attention, etc.? As I read the litany I felt like I was being all but humble…I want respect from my husband…I expect it, I want to be loved by my husband…all the things and more that I am not getting, now I am looking to get out of the marriage because I am not getting what I want and need. Do I have a right? Am I being a big baby and not being humble by not accepting his behavior and expecting to be treated with respect and decency? After reading the litany I felt so confused…I still feel very confused, I know that I need to speak to a spiritual director…I’m still looking…in the mean time how can we be humble when we seek things that, I feel, are just plain part of being a good human being? If my husband was a decent, considerate human being he wouldn’t be cheating, gambling and drinking away his life and ruining ours in the process, is it too much to ask for people to be decent?
 
Lexee:

No, it’s not wrong to expect people to be decent, but thanks to Adam and Eve, humanity’s capacity for sinful behavior is unparralleled in all of creation. And of course you have the right to be treated with respect and love. And it is profoundly confusing when the person who is supposed to love and cherish you the most, falls miserably short of your expectations. You are dealing with a lot right now.

I haven’t been following your other threads closely, but I do wonder if you and your husband should go to counseling. Because you just can’t solve these problems on your own in a reasonable amount of time. Even acquiring humility takes time, and humility isn’t the state of being oppressed or miserable, or accepting a second-rate life, but the state of recognizing your full self, warts and all, and proceeding through life knowing that all of us are so incredibly flawed but still loveable. I think humility allows you to bond more with God (of course) but also with others because the pretenses, judgements, and fears are off the table. You recognize God in others as the source of all good.

Lexee, you have to take care of your mental health for the sake of the baby. Maybe you just need to let go of your idea of a good marriage right now and focus on your child. Your moods will affect him or her. Try to be happy, focus on the miracle inside of you. I’m praying for you.

By the way, can you link that Litany you described in you post? Thanks!
 
We are called to be humble; we must know that all we have comes from the Lord.

The Lord gave us such wonderful and intricate things! Look at how the environment keeps itself in balance with the animals of the sea and air eating each other but through the food chain always staying in balance. Their decomposing bodies provide nourishment to the trees and plants, which in turn provide clean air and nourishment for our bodies. The many tiny microscopic particles in the plants and trees science is discovering are designed to fill voids in our own needs. We must respect nature and be good stewards of it. We must realize in awe that it all comes from the Lord.

How much more so are we blessed than the trees and plants and birds and fish to be made in the Lord’s very image and likeness!! Our bodies house our souls–whose origin and destination is the Lord. We are obligated to give the Lord the respect he is due by protecting our bodies. Our children are amazing MIRACLES of life. The very image and likeness of God is growing in your womb! You are responsible for protecting this little one, nourishing her, and raising her to respect the Lord and his creation. To realize the awesomeness of all that God has given us and fall down in adoration before him for how abundantly we are blessed is true humility.

Along with these blessings come responsibilities. We have a responsibility to protect our children and raise them up right. To protect our bodies from harm. To never deny our Lord and Savior or turn our backs on his teachings. To protect the institutions of the church. To honor the sacraments. To not allow them to be defiled. We are each of us to be vigilant that the Eucharist is not taken during communion to be possibly used in an abusive manner. The same is true of the other sacraments. The Lord is not to be defiled in Communion, why would he allow himself to be trampled on in Holy Matrimony? (Ever heard of the book Three To Get Married? This isn’t just between the two of you.) A husband has a responsibility to love his wife as Christ loved his church. Christ gave everything he had, right down to his last breath, for us his church. He lived for us! He died for us! This is the model he provided for Holy Matrimony and the obligation that husbands have to their wives. His death, an innocent death for OUR sins, was something no one else could do for us all. We must realize with true humility the price he paid when he died on the cross.

Humility does not expect you to allow yourself, your marriage, or your child to be abused, though. As a matter of fact, a true reverence for God’s creation forbids it. You are not obligated in “humility” to subjugate yourself and your precious baby to the drunken tyranny of a man who refuses to follow Christ’s lead. Sure, he might not have been the best choice of husbands afterall, and if your marriage is a valid one you’ll have to live with that decision by not re-marrying. But it doesn’t mean YOU have to take responsibility for HIS sins. We each have free choice, him as much as anyone else. Do you want your little one to suffer so grievously for the sins of his father? You have a responsibility to teach this child about the RESPECT God’s creation deserves. That includes the Sacraments. That includes nature. That includes YOU.
 
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Cupofkindness:
By the way, can you link that Litany you described in you post? Thanks!
I will try…here it goes

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=1087543&postcount=5

and

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=1091869&postcount=24

I hope this worked.
 
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Forest-Pine:
We are called to be humble; we must know that all we have comes from the Lord.

The Lord gave us such wonderful and intricate things! Look at how the environment keeps itself in balance with the animals of the sea and air eating each other but through the food chain always staying in balance. Their decomposing bodies provide nourishment to the trees and plants, which in turn provide clean air and nourishment for our bodies. The many tiny microscopic particles in the plants and trees science is discovering are designed to fill voids in our own needs. We must respect nature and be good stewards of it. We must realize in awe that it all comes from the Lord.

How much more so are we blessed than the trees and plants and birds and fish to be made in the Lord’s very image and likeness!! Our bodies house our souls–whose origin and destination is the Lord. We are obligated to give the Lord the respect he is due by protecting our bodies. Our children are amazing MIRACLES of life. The very image and likeness of God is growing in your womb! You are responsible for protecting this little one, nourishing her, and raising her to respect the Lord and his creation. To realize the awesomeness of all that God has given us and fall down in adoration before him for how abundantly we are blessed is true humility.

Along with these blessings come responsibilities. We have a responsibility to protect our children and raise them up right. To protect our bodies from harm. To never deny our Lord and Savior or turn our backs on his teachings. To protect the institutions of the church. To honor the sacraments. To not allow them to be defiled. We are each of us to be vigilant that the Eucharist is not taken during communion to be possibly used in an abusive manner. The same is true of the other sacraments. The Lord is not to be defiled in Communion, why would he allow himself to be trampled on in Holy Matrimony? (Ever heard of the book Three To Get Married? This isn’t just between the two of you.) A husband has a responsibility to love his wife as Christ loved his church. Christ gave everything he had, right down to his last breath, for us his church. He lived for us! He died for us! This is the model he provided for Holy Matrimony and the obligation that husbands have to their wives. His death, an innocent death for OUR sins, was something no one else could do for us all. We must realize with true humility the price he paid when he died on the cross.

Humility does not expect you to allow yourself, your marriage, or your child to be abused, though. As a matter of fact, a true reverence for God’s creation forbids it. You are not obligated in “humility” to subjugate yourself and your precious baby to the drunken tyranny of a man who refuses to follow Christ’s lead. Sure, he might not have been the best choice of husbands afterall, and if your marriage is a valid one you’ll have to live with that decision by not re-marrying. But it doesn’t mean YOU have to take responsibility for HIS sins. We each have free choice, him as much as anyone else. Do you want your little one to suffer so grievously for the sins of his father? You have a responsibility to teach this child about the RESPECT God’s creation deserves. That includes the Sacraments. That includes nature. That includes YOU.
Wow :bowdown2: this whole post was beautiful. I have never heard anyone put the awesomeness of the Lord in such a beautiful way. You certainly make me feel better about the direction I want to take. I’m just trying to do His will and it seems like it’s in the direction of divorce. I love my children and only want the best for them…I don’t see how living with an addict and an adulterer would be better than being a single mother. I know he would undermine my efforts to raise them to be good, decent Catholics who love and respect God and all His creatures, especially humans (my husband is not Catholic). He would be the type of parent who would encourage notches on the bedpost.

Again, thank you so much for clarifying this subject that became very confusing for me.
 
I don’t think wanting your husband to be a good husband and father for the family is selfish, though if your doing it cause you want to show others that you have a great family then yes, I think there would be some selfishness and pride there. I think you need to keep it in the proper prespective. You must not think everything is your fault, in that you then would be thinking you have more power over stuff than you actually do. You must not think there is nothing that is your fault. I’m sure you had your own mistakes, and when you get into relationships with others, even if not romantic ones, you might be not treating the other right.

When it comes down to it, understand that you’ve tried to do a good job, but you are also weak and a sinner. He is also weak and a sinner, plus it sounds like he has problems, to the point where even when he wants to do a good job, his weakness takes over. Realize out of all this, you are in noway a second class citizen, God does not love you any less. You are a charished adopted daughter of God, also weak and a sinner. Understand God is there for you, no matter what. And because of this you should hang your head in dispare, but when you fall pick back up the pieces and do the best you can.

Now with your husband, continue to talk to people & especially a priest. But also pray. You have to look out for yourself and your family. And make sure you keep in good spirits, it’ll be good for you baby.
 
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