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jesusmademe
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When and how do people sing hymns if they attend the EF? What is the role of hymns for those who attend the EF? When do you sing hymns?
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TheMortenBay
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If by hymns you mean songs in the vernacular, there is room for a hymn as the communion song, but some traditionalists argue you should only ever sing in the vernacular after mass has ended and the priest has left.
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UpUpAndAway
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The parish where I attend EF Mass is run by the ICRSS.
Hymns in the vernacular are sung during Communion and during the recessional after Mass ends. The hymn during Communion is sung only by the choir. Its members either receive first, before anyone else, then sing or sing first then receive after everyone else.
The recessional hymn is sung by everyone.
I can’t tell you what the purpose of the hymns are. To be honest, I never thought to ask myself the question.
Hymns in the vernacular are sung during Communion and during the recessional after Mass ends. The hymn during Communion is sung only by the choir. Its members either receive first, before anyone else, then sing or sing first then receive after everyone else.
The recessional hymn is sung by everyone.
I can’t tell you what the purpose of the hymns are. To be honest, I never thought to ask myself the question.
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jesusmademe
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It seems to that there must have been hymns sung in the old days.
Were vernacular hymns maybe only sung outside of the Liturgies? This I guess would be a reason for the great hymn tradition in the Anglican and Lutheran tradition.
When for example is Silent night sung at the EF? It is sometimes used as an entrance hymn for OF.
The EF would have to use the hymn differently.
I really like vernacular hymns , Latin hymns and Gregorian chant.
I did attend the EF but I did not really hear much of the vernacular hymns. On the other hand the OF often choose a hymn instead of the introitus.
Were vernacular hymns maybe only sung outside of the Liturgies? This I guess would be a reason for the great hymn tradition in the Anglican and Lutheran tradition.
When for example is Silent night sung at the EF? It is sometimes used as an entrance hymn for OF.
The EF would have to use the hymn differently.
I really like vernacular hymns , Latin hymns and Gregorian chant.
I did attend the EF but I did not really hear much of the vernacular hymns. On the other hand the OF often choose a hymn instead of the introitus.
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ioannes_pius
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In terms of Silent Night, as far as I know, TLMs are more likely to have Christmas carols about thirty minutes in advance. That’s probably where they would sing Silent Night.
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Mintaka
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Vernacular hymns were common at things like processions and club meetings, or at Lauds and Vespers. Or basically anytime outside of church.
Sort of the same position that Christian rock has – you might play it at home and with your friends, but not at Mass.
Sort of the same position that Christian rock has – you might play it at home and with your friends, but not at Mass.
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phil19034
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When I attend an EF mass, whether Diocesan or FSSP, the vernacular hymns are only sung before and after mass (processionals)
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jesusmademe
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At vespers? Vernacular hymns at Vesper?
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Phemie
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They did sing hymns in the vernacular before the promulgation of the Pauline Mass. In my neck of the woods they were in French and sung solely by the choir. If memory serves, those were primarily Entrance and Communion hymns, though the one that sticks in memory is a hymn about Mary that was sung at funerals.
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Peeps
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It’s no wonder, then, that Catholics are so reluctant to sing the hymns at (OF) Mass. If they were raised to think it’s “inappropriate”, then they will have a hard time switching mindsets.
It’s a shame. One of the reasons I continue to accept gigs playing piano and organ in Protestant churches is that I miss the spirited and joyous hymn-singing that I grew up with in my Protestant churches.
Last night at Easter vigil, the congregation seemed to sing with freedom and joy–I hope they continue to do this, but I suspect that it was because we had 20 catechumens confirmed and welcomed, and their Protestant relatives were in the congregation singing like typical Protestants–with vigor! Maybe they’ll come back.
It’s a shame. One of the reasons I continue to accept gigs playing piano and organ in Protestant churches is that I miss the spirited and joyous hymn-singing that I grew up with in my Protestant churches.
Last night at Easter vigil, the congregation seemed to sing with freedom and joy–I hope they continue to do this, but I suspect that it was because we had 20 catechumens confirmed and welcomed, and their Protestant relatives were in the congregation singing like typical Protestants–with vigor! Maybe they’ll come back.
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