Hypothetical Abortion Question

[CuriousInIL]

This is a hypothetical question. If you don’t like the question, or don’t understand the question, don’t answer. Don’t change the hypothetical facts, don’t add to the hypothetical facts, don’t leave out some of the hypothetical facts, don’t tell me the facts aren’t realistic or don’t apply to you because blah blah blah…

This is a hypothetical question, and here are the hypothetical facts:

The United States returns questions of the legality of abortions to the individual states.
1.Some states freely allow abortion.
2.Some states restrict abortion but allow it under certain circumstances such as rape or incest.
3.Some states do not allow abortion under any circumstances at all.
4.Some states do not allow abortion under any circumstances at all and also have laws/rules/regulations in place to restrict the movement of pregnant woman out of the state and into states that allow abortion in order to try to prevent abortions.

If you lived in a type-1 state, would you move? To what type state, 2, 3 or 4?
If you lived in a type-2 or -3 or -4, state, would you move? To what type of state?

 

[bilop]

This is a hypothetical question. If you don’t like the question, or don’t understand the question, don’t answer. Don’t change the hypothetical facts, don’t add to the hypothetical facts, don’t leave out some of the hypothetical facts, don’t tell me the facts aren’t realistic or don’t apply to you because blah blah blah…

This is a hypothetical question, and here are the hypothetical facts:

The United States returns questions of the legality of abortions to the individual states.
1.Some states freely allow abortion.
2.Some states restrict abortion but allow it under certain circumstances such as rape or incest.
3.Some states do not allow abortion under any circumstances at all.
4.Some states do not allow abortion under any circumstances at all and also have laws/rules/regulations in place to restrict the movement of pregnant woman out of the state and into states that allow abortion in order to try to prevent abortions.

If you lived in a type-1 state, would you move? To what type state, 2, 3 or 4?
If you lived in a type-2 or -3 or -4, state, would you move? To what type of state?

No, I would not move. My moving is not going to stop anyone from having an abortion. In fact, if all the pro-life people left the pro-abortion states, there’s no chance of ever passing laws to end abortion in those states.

To me, the correct answer is to stay, and work to change the law.

God Bless

 

[Janet_S]

This is a hypothetical question. If you don’t like the question, or don’t understand the question, don’t answer. Don’t change the hypothetical facts, don’t add to the hypothetical facts, don’t leave out some of the hypothetical facts, don’t tell me the facts aren’t realistic or don’t apply to you because blah blah blah…

This is a hypothetical question, and here are the hypothetical facts:

The United States returns questions of the legality of abortions to the individual states.
1.Some states freely allow abortion.
2.Some states restrict abortion but allow it under certain circumstances such as rape or incest.
3.Some states do not allow abortion under any circumstances at all.
4.Some states do not allow abortion under any circumstances at all and also have laws/rules/regulations in place to restrict the movement of pregnant woman out of the state and into states that allow abortion in order to try to prevent abortions.

If you lived in a type-1 state, would you move? To what type state, 2, 3 or 4?
If you lived in a type-2 or -3 or -4, state, would you move? To what type of state?

I’m a healthcare professional, and if I lived in a state where I was required to participate in abortion as a part of my job (type 1), I would move to a state (2, 3, or 4) that respected the right of a healthcare worker to refuse to cooperate in abortion. We don’t have freedom of conscience in most most states and in most hospitals. It’s either “do it” or “find another job”. You can always sue, but most people don’t bother. It’s much easier to go along with the culture of death, and that’s what most people do.

My preference, of course, would be to live in a type 3 state. I don’t believe it would be possible to have a type 4 state, but you specifically requested us not to discuss that, so I won’t.

 

[Newbie2]

The other option as a healthcare provider is to find a position where providing abortion care is not within the scope of the medical practice; orthopedics, radiology, dermatology, that sort of thing. Might be difficult to do for a physician OBGYN, though.

 

[Seatuck]

This is why we need to fight FOCA to protect healthcare workers rights. Not just for abortion but for other healthcare issues. We need to get legislation passed that guarantees healthcare workers the right to refuse to perform or practice in ways that violates their moral conscience. Whether it is abortion, prescribing artificial birth control, certain fertility treatments that we find objectionable, pulling the plug etc.

 

[Janet_S]

This is why we need to fight FOCA to protect healthcare workers rights. Not just for abortion but for other healthcare issues. We need to get legislation passed that guarantees healthcare workers the right to refuse to perform or practice in ways that violates their moral conscience. Whether it is abortion, prescribing artificial birth control, certain fertility treatments that we find objectionable, pulling the plug etc.

One of the evils of the abortion industry is that it enlists the healthcare system to do its dirty work. Planned Parenthood is doing everything in its power to silence the pro-life consciences of healthcare workers. That is the aim of FOCA too.

For anyone interested in conscience rights for healthcare workers, I started this thread last week:

“Bush rattles Planned Parenthood’s Cage”

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=4572249&postcount=1

 

[ChristIsTheWay]

I live in a state that would probably become a type 2 in short order. With some extra work and time, type 3 status might eventually come to my state. No, I wouldn’t leave. I’d stick around and make sure the new laws are enforced, loopholes are closed, etc.

If I lived in a type 1, I would also stick around and work toward making it a prolife state, too. There are exceptions to that, though. If I was a doctor or a pharmacist or in any healthcare profession that might require me to participate in evil, I would leave a type 1 in a heart beat, unless it had some kind of conscience clause or exception. Since I don’t really see prochoicers allowing something like that, I doubt I’d have any option but to leave.

As for type 4, well, I wouldn’t leave there, either, but I see many problems with restricting interstate movement of innocent people that just happen to be pregnant and I can think of some ways the type 4 could be improved so as not to restrict and punish innocent people.