I am Apostolic, you can't be Apostolic, Why I cant be Protestant

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Can the Invisible Church be “seen”? 😃

I wasn’t aware of that… certainly I knew that The Roman Rite of the “One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church” has indeed rejected Anglican Orders on the ground that Anglican Priests do not use the proper Rite of Ordination… which is quite funny because we read in Pope Pius XII’s “Sacramentum Ordinis”, “But regarding the matter and form in the conferring of every order, by Our same supreme apostolic authority We decree and establish the following: … In the ordination of priests, the matter is the first imposition of the bishop’s hands which is done in silence… But the form [referring to Ordination] consists of the words of the preface of which the following are essential and so required for validity:

"Grant, we beseech You, Almighty Father, to these Your servants, the dignity of the Priesthood (presbyteriii dignitatem); renew the spirit of holiness within them, so that they may hold from You, O God, the office of the second rank in Your service and by the example of their behavior afford a pattern of holy living.”

Yet those words of the preface which are (according to Pope Pius XII) “essential and so required for validity” were left out of Paul VI’s New Rite of Ordination (approved in 1968)

So does that mean every Roman priest ordained since 1968 has been “nullified by the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church”? Or does Rome’s decrees only apply to those outside the fold? :rolleyes:

Does the Old Catholic Church recognise Anglican Apostolic Succession as invalid? What about the Eastern Rite of the Church… do they deny our Apostolic Succession?

Of course another thing is that across the Anglican church there are different views on what the word “apostolic” means in relation to the church.
The Old Catholic Church as I understand it is under the Anglican Church. The apostolic succession is a mess here. I believe that the best thing to do with this is to ask an Apologist. I believe that pointing out that Apostolic succession ceased at the reformation or shortly therafter is the best I can do. Look up at the tab Faith, and put Anglican Apostolic succession in the search. Here is what I got.

catholic.com/thisrock/quickquestions/keyword/Protestant/page6
It is equally unfortunate that, while many Anglicans/Episcopalians profess belief in a ministerial priesthood, the apostolic succession was ruptured in their circles, and their priesthood is no longer valid. After Henry VIII broke away from the Church, his successor, Edward VI, introduced a drastically altered and invalid version of the rite of ordination, with the result that the apostolic succession (which had previously been present in the Anglican Church) ceased, and its ministerial priesthood stopped.
catholic.com/thisrock/2001/0109fea5.asp
From the beginning the Catholic Church rejected Anglican orders. (This rejection had nothing to do with the fable that a consecration of the first Protestant Archbishop of Canterbury had taken place in The Nag’s Head, a London pub.) The Catholic Church solemnly pronounced the invalidity of Anglican orders in 1896.
Ask an Apologist.
 
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