I can't stay,and I can't go

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No matter how bad the changes taking place we must never forget that the CC is Christ’s Church and continues to live in it.He will never desert Her.i admit its terribly difficut to attend a Mass which is so different from traditional mass that has developed over centuries.In youur particular incident it wasn’t even a Mass.You could have walked out and been forgiven because there is no mass in your area.If you can’t find any true mass in your area then you are excused next week also.Hopefully the priest will be there.
Hmmm… Let’s see. Turn down the chance to listen to the Scriptures, and even more important, turn down the chance to receive Holy Communion…

Sorry, no, I don’t see any reason to walk out, not if one knows that this service is one permitted by the Church.
 
Yes, he was mistaken in being so scandalised at this service, since it is one permitted, and even encouraged, so presumably he has now explained this to his children.
Not quite “encouraged”.

I was wondering about this too a month ago when my parish priest was going to be away one weekend and there was no one to replace him, but we still had to fulfill our Sunday obligation to attend Mass. They had four of these services in place of regularly scheduled Masses, rather than tell us to attend Mass at one of the other 20 parishes in the city, or attend the Divine Liturgy at the Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral across the street from the parish.

Taken from Redemptionis Sacramentum
3. Particular Celebrations carried out in the Absence of a Priest
[162.] On the day known as the Lord’s Day, the Church faithful gathers together to commemorate the Lord’s Resurrection and the whole Paschal Mystery, especially by the celebration of Mass.[263] For “no Christian community is built up unless it is rooted in and hinges upon the celebration of the Most Holy Eucharist”.[264] Hence it is the Christian people’s right to have the Eucharist celebrated for them on Sunday, and whenever holydays of obligation or other major feasts occur, and even daily insofar as this is possible. Therefore **when it is difficult to have the celebration of Mass on a Sunday in a parish church or in another community of Christ’s faithful, **the diocesan Bishop together with his Priests should consider appropriate remedies.[265] Among such solutions will be that other Priests be called upon for this purpose, or that the faithful transfer to a church in a nearby place so as to participate in the Eucharistic mystery there.[266]
[163.] All Priests, to whom the Priesthood and the Eucharist are entrusted for the sake of others,[267] should remember that they are enjoined to provide the faithful with the opportunity to satisfy the obligation of participating at Mass on Sundays.[268] For their part, the lay faithful have the right, barring a case of real impossibility, that no Priest should ever refuse either to celebrate Mass for the people or to have it celebrated by another Priest if the people otherwise would not be able to satisfy the obligation of participating at Mass on Sunday or the other days of precept.
[164.]** “If participation at the celebration of the Eucharist is impossible** on account of the absence of a sacred minister or for some other grave cause,”[269] then it is the Christian people’s right that the diocesan Bishop should provide as far as he is able for some celebration to be held on Sundays for that community under his authority and according to the Church’s norms. Sunday celebrations of this specific kind, however, are to be considered altogether extraordinary. All Deacons or lay members of Christ’s faithful who are assigned a part in such celebrations by the diocesan Bishop should strive “to keep alive in the community a genuine ‘hunger’ for the Eucharist, so that no opportunity for the celebration of Mass will ever be missed, also taking advantage of the occasional presence of a Priest who is not impeded by Church law from celebrating Mass”.[270]
In other words, rather than attend these services on Sundays, we are to fulfill our Sunday obligation to attend Mass at another parish, unless there is grave reason that we are unable to. While I can’t speak for the OP’s community, I know mine may have had a priest shortage, but there was no shortage of Sunday Masses or Divine Liturgies within a reasonable distance. Perhaps for those with a bona fide impediment from attending Mass at another parish, such a service could be offered, but we should be instructed (actually, we should want to go on our own accord) to attend Mass at another parish and fulfill our Sunday obligation. For those whom this is impossible, their obligation to attend Mass is lifted.

IMHO, I believe the OP is perfectly justified in feeling scandalized by this service. How many Catholics believe their Sunday obligation is to “go to church” rather than to “participate in Mass”? Holding such services when there is another parish to attend Mass at confuses the lay faithful in what their Sunday obligation actually is.

I would be perfectly fine if someone posted on the door of the church that Mass was cancelled and there was a list of the other Mass times in the city. We should want to attend Mass. Personally, the Most Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is my favourite part of Mass, so one of these services just doesn’t suffice for me.
 
Not quite “encouraged”.
You are quite right, ‘encouraged’ was the wrong word to use. I suppose I was thinking that the service is encouraged in the sense of being better than doing nothing, or of replacing Mass with the rosary, for example. Also encouraged, in that an order of service is provided and sanctioned officially.

I agree that the option of attending another Mass elsewhere should have been posted, although we do not know the geography involved in the OP’s case. IIRC, Catholic churches are few and far between in Wales. as the population is spread out.
 
To the previous poster, I can get to about 15 Catholic parishes, within 3/4 of an hour,plenty of churches.
For me,this was just one more thing. I live in a diocese that has been described as “the dead sea”, and as “a liberal wasteland”. We do so many things that are illicit, that I now assume pretty much everything is wrong,even when it isn’t-mea culpa:(
I live in a diocese that has many “catholic” schools, that all manage to produce a tiny number of practicing catholics.
Families have pretty much disapeared. etcetc.no vocations.
 
Only a priest or deacon is permitted to read the Gospel and give a homily from the pulpit If there is no priest and no deacon, a prayer or Communion service can take place, but the Gospel and reflection must be read/given from another place…
Not so. The service can’t be led from the priest’s chair but the readings and the reflection are properly done from the Ambo in any type of liturgy.
 
Can. 1248 §1 The obligation of assisting at Mass is satisfied wherever Mass is celebrated in a catholic rite either on a holyday itself or on the evening of the previous day.
§2 If it is impossible to assist at a eucharistic celebration, either because no sacred minister is available or for some other grave reason, the faithful are strongly recommended to take part in a liturgy of the Word, if there be such in the parish church or some other sacred place, which is celebrated in accordance with the provisions laid down by the diocesan Bishop; or to spend an appropriate time in prayer, whether personally or as a family or, as occasion presents, in a group of families.
 
Yes,I am an RCIA/FHC instructor. My ignorance means I am right at home:shrug:
 
Perhaps some posters could spend more energy praying for this diocese,and thanking God that theirs is perfect.🤷
 
Could you let us know more about the problems you perceive, Apricot Yogurt? It would help.
 
Perhaps some posters could spend more energy praying for this diocese,and thanking God that theirs is perfect.🤷
Not sure there is any such thing as a perfect parish, but at least for me I try to remain ignorant of the political persuasions of my fellow parishioners, and if I do become aware of them then I try to look beyond them, rather than succumb to allowing them color my perceptions of them and interactions with them.
 
Not sure there is any such thing as a perfect parish, but at least for me I try to remain ignorant of the political persuasions of my fellow parishioners, and if I do become aware of them then I try to look beyond them, rather than succumb to allowing them color my perceptions of them and interactions with them.
Good luck.
First hand experience has taught me that this can be exceptionally difficult.
Particularly when one learns of political views that run contrary to the faith.

If I find myself in purgatory, I am certain it will be this particular weakness that holds me there longest.😉
 
My emphasis added.
Can. 1248 §1 The obligation of assisting at Mass is satisfied wherever Mass is celebrated in a catholic rite either on a holyday itself or on the evening of the previous day.

§2** If it is impossible** to assist at a eucharistic celebration, either because no sacred minister is available or for some other grave reason, the faithful are strongly recommended to take part in a liturgy of the Word, if there be such in the parish church or some other sacred place, which is celebrated in accordance with the provisions laid down by the diocesan Bishop; or to spend an appropriate time in prayer, whether personally or as a family or, as occasion presents, in a group of families.
It’s only impossible if there is no other Eucharistic Celebration reasonably available.
 
Hmmm… Let’s see. Turn down the chance to listen to the Scriptures, and even more important, turn down the chance to receive Holy Communion…

Sorry, no, I don’t see any reason to walk out, not if one knows that this service is one permitted by the Church.
I believe the rule you are talking about is only for communities where they have only one Catholic Church and it would cause great hardships to travel many miles to attend a Mass. That is the only time a Communion Service is appropriate. It is not intended for areas where it might take a relitively short drive to attend Mass.
 
Perhaps some posters could spend more energy praying for this diocese,and thanking God that theirs is perfect.🤷
As you now know that Communion Services are allowed can you please tell us about the things which seem to get you really upset. It might be that there are things you think are abuses but are not. Everyone here wants to help but you haven’t explained the problem.
 
First the OP complains about one thing, and when shown that what happened was perfectly legitimate, he complains about those “gosh-darned liberals”.

But three pages of sincere replies? That’s a pretty good score for a troll.

😦
 
My emphasis added.

It’s only impossible if there is no other Eucharistic Celebration reasonably available.
Of course. I don’t think a Communion Service counts as one, though. And what if you’re not properly disposed for communion (need for confession, etc.)?
 
First the OP complains about one thing, and when shown that what happened was perfectly legitimate, he complains about those “gosh-darned liberals”.

But three pages of sincere replies? That’s a pretty good score for a troll.

😦
Um, you have 10 posts. The OP has been on here for a very long time and SHE is not a troll!

I complain about the gosh darned liberals too…I’m no troll, just don’t agree with liberal thinking. You should probably check how long people have been around here before we throw out the troll card;)
 
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