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anon49823460
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Does anyone have a list of all the places in the bible were God gave someone a new name (before he sent them out for His purpose) ? Thanks for any help!
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anon49823460
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I guess where I was going with this is.
The reception of a new name, in Jewish tradition ‘denoted the conferring of a special divine mission.’"
Is Peter the only disciple that Jesus gave a new name? If we look in the Old Testament God gave Abram and Sarai a new name for their “special divine mission”. God gave John and Jesus there names. And there are probably a lot more examples.
How come Jesus giving Simon a “new name” doesn’t come up in the Primacy of Peter apologetics?
The reception of a new name, in Jewish tradition ‘denoted the conferring of a special divine mission.’"
Is Peter the only disciple that Jesus gave a new name? If we look in the Old Testament God gave Abram and Sarai a new name for their “special divine mission”. God gave John and Jesus there names. And there are probably a lot more examples.
How come Jesus giving Simon a “new name” doesn’t come up in the Primacy of Peter apologetics?
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Atreyu
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It does come up.
Btw, Jacob=Israel.
Btw, Jacob=Israel.
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Shoshana
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I think there is also Ibrahim which God changed to Abraham…
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anon49823460
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Sorry, you are right, I should have done at least a tiny bit of “homework”. For one, it’s right in WikipediaIt does come up.
Btw, Jacob=Israel.
In the New Testament Jesus changes Simon’s name to Peter. Elsewhere in Scripture such a name change always denotes a change in status (e.g. Abram to Abraham, Jacob to Israel, and Saul to Paul). In the Greek text, Simon’s name is changed to πητρος (Petros), and in the second half of the verse the “rock” in the phrase “on this rock” is the word πητρα (petra).
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RyanL
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Abram = Abraham
Sarai = Sarah
Jacob = Israel
Jesus = Emmanuel
Simon = Peter/Cephas
Mary = Full of Grace (Kecharitomene)
Saul was called Paul, but there’s no explanation as to why. It would be pure speculation to assume God changed it.
John the Baptist is another interesting person. God chose his name (Luke 1:13) before he was born, so it’s not really a "re-"naming. In this same category fall the children of Hosea (see Hosea 1:6–8), though they also receive a re-naming (Hosea 2:1, 23).
A final note is that James and John, the sons of Zebedee, were collectively called Boanegres (Sons of Thunder). I don’t know if it quite qualifies, but it’s definitely interesting to note.
God Bless,
RyanL
Sarai = Sarah
Jacob = Israel
Jesus = Emmanuel
Simon = Peter/Cephas
Mary = Full of Grace (Kecharitomene)
Saul was called Paul, but there’s no explanation as to why. It would be pure speculation to assume God changed it.
John the Baptist is another interesting person. God chose his name (Luke 1:13) before he was born, so it’s not really a "re-"naming. In this same category fall the children of Hosea (see Hosea 1:6–8), though they also receive a re-naming (Hosea 2:1, 23).
A final note is that James and John, the sons of Zebedee, were collectively called Boanegres (Sons of Thunder). I don’t know if it quite qualifies, but it’s definitely interesting to note.
God Bless,
RyanL
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joshua_b
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If Im not mistaken (and I very well could be), I believe most apologists I’ve heard comment on this (including Jimmy Akin ?), have said that Saul and Paul are simply two forms of the same name, just as Carlos (which is spanish) and Charles (which is english) are the same name. There is no “renaming” of Saul to Paul, and the two are used almost interchangably.Saul was called Paul, but there’s no explanation as to why. It would be pure speculation to assume God changed it.
I know this whole “Saul to Paul” argument comes up from protestants in apologetics debates, to counterpoint the fact that Simon was renamed Peter by Jesus, indicating his special role as the first Pope, but I’ve heard it explained that it is a non-argument, being that Saul’s name is never really changed at all.
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copland
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Don’t forget the name that all Catholic Chrisitans get, found in Revelation 2:17.
He, that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches: To him that overcometh, I will give the hidden manna, and will give him a white counter, and in the counter, a new name written, which no man knoweth, but he that receiveth it.
St. Bede says, “That we should be named, and should be, sons of God.” The Venerable Bede Commentary on Revelation]
St. Irenaeus says, “Another name, showing that he has become changed for the better, being now not [mere] flesh and blood, but a spiritual man, and is called such.” St. Irenaeus Against Heresies Book V Chapter 10 Verse 2]
St. Jerome says, “A new name is deserving of a new son. The new name is that of Christians.” St. Jerome Homily 25 On the Psalms]
Primasius says, "And upon the stone is a new name, that is, the name of Chrisitan, for which reason we read, “And you shall be called a new name which the mouth of the Lord will give.(Is. 62:2)” Primasius Commentary on Revelation]
St. Caesarius of Arles says, "And on the stone is written a new name, that is, the knowledge of the Son of Man. Which no on one knows except him who receives it. St. Caesarius of Arles Commentary on Revelation]
He, that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches: To him that overcometh, I will give the hidden manna, and will give him a white counter, and in the counter, a new name written, which no man knoweth, but he that receiveth it.
St. Bede says, “That we should be named, and should be, sons of God.” The Venerable Bede Commentary on Revelation]
St. Irenaeus says, “Another name, showing that he has become changed for the better, being now not [mere] flesh and blood, but a spiritual man, and is called such.” St. Irenaeus Against Heresies Book V Chapter 10 Verse 2]
St. Jerome says, “A new name is deserving of a new son. The new name is that of Christians.” St. Jerome Homily 25 On the Psalms]
Primasius says, "And upon the stone is a new name, that is, the name of Chrisitan, for which reason we read, “And you shall be called a new name which the mouth of the Lord will give.(Is. 62:2)” Primasius Commentary on Revelation]
St. Caesarius of Arles says, "And on the stone is written a new name, that is, the knowledge of the Son of Man. Which no on one knows except him who receives it. St. Caesarius of Arles Commentary on Revelation]
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copland
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As far as St. Paul goes, here are some very interesting explantions by 2 of the greatest Christian minds ever.
St. Jerome says, *As Sergius Paulus Proconsul of Cyprus was the first to believe on hi**s preaching, he took his name from him because he had subdued him to faith in Christ… *[On Illustrious Men Chapter 5]
St. Augustine says,* Whence was Paul himself, who was first called Saul? That is, first proud, afterwards humble? For when he was Saul, his name was derived from Saul: now Saul was a proud king; and in his reign he persecuted the humble David) So when he who was afterwards Paul, was Saul, he was proud, at that time a persecutor of the innocent, at that time a waster of the Church. For he had received letters from the chief priests (burning as he was with zeal for the synagogue, and persecuting the Christian name), that he might show up whatever Christians he should find, to be punished. While he is on his way, while he is breathing out slaughter, while he is thirsting for blood, he is thrown to the ground by the voice of Christ from heaven the persecutor, he is raised up the preacher. In him was fulfilled that which is written in the Prophet, “I will wound and I will heal.” For that only in man cloth God wound, which lifteth itself up against God. He is no unkind physician who opens the swelling, who cuts, or cauterizes the corrupted part. He gives pain, it is true; but he only gives pain, that he may bring the patient on to health. He gives pain; but if he did not, he would do no good. Christ then by one word laid Saul low, and raised up Paul; that is, He laid low the proud, and raised up the humble. For what was the reason of his change of name, that whereas he was afore called Saul, he chose afterwards to be called Paul; but that he acknowledged in himself that the name of Saul when he was a persecutor, had been a name of pride? He chose therefore a humble name; to be called Paul, that is, the least. For Paul is, “the least.” Paul is nothing else but little. And now glorying in this name, and giving us a lesson of humility, he says, "I am the least of the Apostles.* [Sermon 27 Verse 2]
St. Jerome says, *As Sergius Paulus Proconsul of Cyprus was the first to believe on hi**s preaching, he took his name from him because he had subdued him to faith in Christ… *[On Illustrious Men Chapter 5]
St. Augustine says,* Whence was Paul himself, who was first called Saul? That is, first proud, afterwards humble? For when he was Saul, his name was derived from Saul: now Saul was a proud king; and in his reign he persecuted the humble David) So when he who was afterwards Paul, was Saul, he was proud, at that time a persecutor of the innocent, at that time a waster of the Church. For he had received letters from the chief priests (burning as he was with zeal for the synagogue, and persecuting the Christian name), that he might show up whatever Christians he should find, to be punished. While he is on his way, while he is breathing out slaughter, while he is thirsting for blood, he is thrown to the ground by the voice of Christ from heaven the persecutor, he is raised up the preacher. In him was fulfilled that which is written in the Prophet, “I will wound and I will heal.” For that only in man cloth God wound, which lifteth itself up against God. He is no unkind physician who opens the swelling, who cuts, or cauterizes the corrupted part. He gives pain, it is true; but he only gives pain, that he may bring the patient on to health. He gives pain; but if he did not, he would do no good. Christ then by one word laid Saul low, and raised up Paul; that is, He laid low the proud, and raised up the humble. For what was the reason of his change of name, that whereas he was afore called Saul, he chose afterwards to be called Paul; but that he acknowledged in himself that the name of Saul when he was a persecutor, had been a name of pride? He chose therefore a humble name; to be called Paul, that is, the least. For Paul is, “the least.” Paul is nothing else but little. And now glorying in this name, and giving us a lesson of humility, he says, "I am the least of the Apostles.* [Sermon 27 Verse 2]
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