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BartholomewB
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We’ll soon find out. The publication date is next Thursday. In the meantime,
“It is not always easy to tell when Martel is trafficking in fact, rumour, eyewitness accounts or hearsay,” says a source with knowledge of “In the Closet.” (from your link).
“It is not always easy to tell when Martel is trafficking in fact, rumour, eyewitness accounts or hearsay,” says a source with knowledge of “In the Closet.” (from your link).
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From the article you posted:
“The book, “In the Closet of the Vatican”, written by French sociologist and journalist Frederic Martel, reports that around 80 per cent of clerics working in the Roman Curia are gay – although not necessarily sexually active – and details how they adhere to an unspoken code of the “closet”.”"
May I know, how in the world is it possible for this Martel to know that those cardinals and clerics “are gay” when they are “not sexually active” (as in no proof has been found)? He read their minds? By their looks or the way they walk?
Or he just said so and we must believe him because of his degrees.
“The book, “In the Closet of the Vatican”, written by French sociologist and journalist Frederic Martel, reports that around 80 per cent of clerics working in the Roman Curia are gay – although not necessarily sexually active – and details how they adhere to an unspoken code of the “closet”.”"
May I know, how in the world is it possible for this Martel to know that those cardinals and clerics “are gay” when they are “not sexually active” (as in no proof has been found)? He read their minds? By their looks or the way they walk?
Or he just said so and we must believe him because of his degrees.Tis_Bearself
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If the clerics are “not sexually active” then I couldn’t care less if they are gay or what their sexual preference is.
If a gay man is totally able to set sex aside, observe his vows of celibacy, and give his life to Jesus as a priest, then I think that’s great.
The problems in the priesthood are being caused by people of both orientations and with other socially unacceptable preferences (like pedophiles) who are unable to set these impulses aside and instead go around being sexually active in some way. The priests who are sexually abusing nuns are likely not gay but they are doing serious harm to the Church, whereas a priest who is gay but celibate is harming no one.
If a gay man is totally able to set sex aside, observe his vows of celibacy, and give his life to Jesus as a priest, then I think that’s great.
The problems in the priesthood are being caused by people of both orientations and with other socially unacceptable preferences (like pedophiles) who are unable to set these impulses aside and instead go around being sexually active in some way. The priests who are sexually abusing nuns are likely not gay but they are doing serious harm to the Church, whereas a priest who is gay but celibate is harming no one.
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Tis_Bearself
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I would like to know too, Mary. Did he take a survey? I certainly hope he’s not relying on gossip, hearsay, or how a person looks, talks, walks or dresses…
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In journalism the name of the game is first, to get published, then, to get quoted and cited as much as possible.
Nothing helps those goals like extreme reporting of the lurid. Factual objecive reporting will seldom get you published, and never cited.
Nothing helps those goals like extreme reporting of the lurid. Factual objecive reporting will seldom get you published, and never cited.
Tis_Bearself
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It reminds me a bit of the Red Scare when the actual number of Communists in government seemed to be reported on an ever-increasing scale to grab headlines.
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So this was the case with what the Boston Globe reported about the Boston area Archdiocese back in 2002, right?
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AlbertDerGrosse
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From the posted link:
Tis_Bearself
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This does not mean that the people he interviewed were gay. Could have been they passed on gossip. Also, “names or it didn’t happen”.
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