I`m still looking and watching and listening

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yes thats me i take time ti pray but i dont get any answers, i go to church catholic and there is total silence there and i dont feel good or see him or hear from him, i am not going back anymore.its alot of nonsense,all the church wants is your money,to biy books etc.i thought that i needed god, but the god im talking about is dead.all who read this cant persuade me that i`m wrong,you to only have your faith which is contrary to reality.all christians are weak individuals men women you name it you need a crotch so you fall for religion.tell me what has religion done in your life.
 
I understand your feeling. You want a God you can sense with your five senses, because that is how you decifer things in your life. But God is A SPIRIT and invisible and must be believed by faith. Faith is believing in something you can’t at the moment see. This is difficult for someone who seeks to understand God with their senses and intellect. It doesn’t work.

What you NEED to do is get ALONE with God and tell him like it is. Be direct with him!!! Tell him, “I can’t see you, I can’t hear you and I don’t feel your hand on me. So if you really care about me God MAKE yourself real to me in my life.” If you say that prayer God will, but in a way that may surprise you. You are not alone in your feelings, many have had the same feelings and that is normal.

Part of your difficulty was, that by attending a Catholic church you thought somehow God was going to reveal himself to you through your senses. But it doesn’t work that way. So DON’T GO TO CHURCH. Don’t do anything right now. Simply tell God your true feelings and then WAIT on God. God will respond. Trust me.

Ron from Ohio
 
humble spirit:
yes thats me i take time ti pray but i dont get any answers, i go to church catholic and there is total silence there and i dont feel good or see him or hear from him, i am not going back anymore.its alot of nonsense,all the church wants is your money,to biy books etc.i thought that i needed god, but the god im talking about is dead.all who read this cant persuade me that i`m wrong,you to only have your faith which is contrary to reality.all christians are weak individuals men women you name it you need a crotch so you fall for religion.tell me what has religion done in your life.
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“All who read this can’t persuade me that I’m wrong”

Perhaps when you read these words from “Humble spirit” you were turned off as much as I was and that’s why you said “bye.” That’s why I did not bother to reply to the “Humble” spirit.

Antonio 🙂
 
To speak of God as you have is terribly disrespectful toward God who is the source of all life. I think you should apologize to God and us because it offends those who love God.

Greg
 
I second the “bye.” If I thought he was a sincere person making a real effort, then by all means we should try to help. But, given his “reaching out” involves telling everyone here they’re “weak-minded,” good riddance.
 
humble spirit:
tell me what has religion done in your life.
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A little over a year ago, my dearest and oldest friend died suddenly from a massive stroke at the age of 36. For over 20 years, Fred was a daily part of my life. Growing up, I spent nearly as much time at his house as I did at my own. We grew, laughed, and suffered together, including through the untimely death of his father.

There isn’t a day that goes by I don’t think of Fred. Fortunately, I haven’t caught myself trying to phone him recently. Those days where reflex takes over are pretty much gone. But still, there is an emptiness that no other friend will probably ever fill.

What has my religion done for me?

It has given hope that I will see Fred again, not in this life, but in the next. It has made me stronger, and given me incentive to be a better person than I was before Fred’s death.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
Ahh…yes. The ever-popular “crutch” (in this case “crotch”) theory of faith in God. You might get a kick out of this: The Psychology of Atheism. Several theories such as Atheism as Oedipal Wish fulfillment. Also, Atheists who had deep conflict with their father and project this onto the universe.

Now, I’ll grant that it looks highly speculative, but guess what? It’s no more speculative than the “crotch” theory. 😃

Scott
 
Humblespirit I hear frustration, anger and despair in you post. Mother Theresa wasn’t weak, Joan of Ark wasn’t weak. Why on earth would SO many people dedicate their lives to serving God? That doesn’t take weakness it takes strength, God expects alot from us but nothing more than what grace he gives us perservere.

I don’t know if everything I say is falling on deaf ears but I get the feeling there is a tiny part in there that still hopes because seeking God is written on our hearts.

What has religion done, where do I even begin? When my marriage hung by a thread I a went to Mass everyday searching for God, searching for solice. I had to endure a long healing process in my marriage but I refused to reject God. I screamed at Him sometimes, I was angry as hell. I felt like where are you God? I thought if your testing me to see I will remain faithful than I accept your test and I will not turn away from you. It took time more time than I wanted it to but I have learned to trust in God’s time not mine. I threw my self at the foot of the cross and submitted myself to ALL the teachings of the church and I prayed, and prayed and prayed.

The marriage I have now is one I couldn’t have possibly imagined 6 years ago. We survived just about every crisis a marriage can go thru and now we are so blessed with an incredibly beautiful friendship and marriage.
If I were weak I would have turned on God and said screw you! Where were you when I need you? But he has rewarded my faithfulness far beyond my best expectations.

Keep talking humblespirit. Where are you in your life? What’s going on? I refuse to write you off. You are in this forum for a reason. Hope to hear from you again. Peace.👋
 
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But, given his “reaching out” involves telling everyone here they’re “weak-minded,” good riddance.
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Sounds like you have a bit of a pride issue. We are called to evangelize, we are called to be sign in the world. Good riddance?😦
You know Christains are not weak, why let this comment bother you?
 
humble spirit:
yes thats me i take time ti pray but i dont get any answers, i go to church catholic and there is total silence there and i dont feel good or see him or hear from him, i am not going back anymore.its alot of nonsense,all the church wants is your money,to biy books etc.i thought that i needed god, but the god im talking about is dead.all who read this cant persuade me that i`m wrong,you to only have your faith which is contrary to reality.all christians are weak individuals men women you name it you need a crotch so you fall for religion.tell me what has religion done in your life.
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If you thought you needed God, you still do! God created you, he loves you, he wants you. Yes, I know he can be silent. I noticed. I have had several times where I thought I should get an imediate answer, but God sees what’s ahead we don’t. If I had gotten what I wanted with the answer I was looking for at the time I wouldn’t be here, or know some of the people I know. I would be in a very wrong place…I’m so glad God has his ways… I know it’s tough…but hang in there God’s here, he loves you, and wants you back!
 
Sounds like you have a bit of a pride issue. We are called to evangelize, we are called to be sign in the world. Good riddance?
You know Christains are not weak, why let this comment bother you?
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I don’t. (Though I most definitely have a pride issue). Guys like him don’t bother me in the least, but since my time is extremely valuable to me these days, I’ve got to use it well. Talking to someone who hasn’t yet developed his rational faculties isn’t a good use of my time.

I liked his Freudian slip, though. We just need a “crotch,” huh? Lol.
 
humble spirit:
yes thats me i take time ti pray but i dont get any answers, i go to church catholic and there is total silence there and i dont feel good or see him or hear from him, i am not going back anymore.its alot of nonsense,all the church wants is your money,to biy books etc.i thought that i needed god, but the god im talking about is dead.all who read this cant persuade me that i`m wrong,you to only have your faith which is contrary to reality.all christians are weak individuals men women you name it you need a crotch so you fall for religion.tell me what has religion done in your life.
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You have the answers, you are just not seeing them yet. In the fullness of time, you will. Listen to what you just said yourself: “…but the god i’m talking about is dead.” There is your answer. Whatever it is you have been looking at or for, it was not the Almighty God, therefore you sense the death in it and the void. He is greater than your imagination, and you are too humble and afraid and too beaten down by the world to have the courage to follow the Living God. He is not a leader of weaklings, but of heroes. And He is calling you.
 
humble spirit:
i thought that i needed god, but the god i`m talking about is dead…
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What do you mean by “the god I’m talking about is dead”? Are you quoting Nietszche?

What God?
What is this desire you have (for a dead God)?
 
humble spirit:
yes thats me i take time ti pray but i dont get any answers, i go to church catholic and there is total silence there and i dont feel good or see him or hear from him, i am not going back anymore.its alot of nonsense,all the church wants is your money,to biy books etc.i thought that i needed god, but the god im talking about is dead.all who read this cant persuade me that i`m wrong,you to only have your faith which is contrary to reality.all christians are weak individuals men women you name it you need a crotch so you fall for religion.tell me what has religion done in your life.
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Hi, Humble Spirit,
See your words, “I’m still looking and watching and listening” The rest of what you wrote is said in despair. The first thing to remember is that God is alive and He is now today this minute watching you also. When you say, God is not answering it means you don’t understand God. There are 3 basic answers, Yes, No and keep on going as you are. Now the most common answer from God is " keep on going as you are, don’t change anything" Now you tell us that you go to church and pray and make donations etc. Does God want you to change, no of course He doesn’t . You may think you deserve something special, like a sign in the sky, but God is impartial, He loves everyone, yes the person beside you just as much as He loves you. So you are not going to get a sign in the sky. What you are doing is pleasing Him. Dont stop. Please don’t think you can make God respond. This is important. God will pick His own time. When He does He will bowl you over. So God is answering you. Do not change anything. You are where He wants you to be. Trust in Him. Just change your attitude if you can to one of enjoying life more. Look for enjoyment, look on the happy side of each coin.
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edwinG
 
Footprints in the Sand

One night I dreamed I was walking along the beach with the Lord. Many scenes from my life flashed across the sky.

In each scene I noticed footprints in the sand. Sometimes there were two sets of footprints, other times there was one only.

This bothered me because I noticed that during the low periods of my life, when I was suffering from anguish, sorrow or defeat, I could see only one set of footprints, so I said to the Lord,

“You promised me Lord,
that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I have noticed that during the most trying periods of my life there has only been one set of footprints in the sand. Why, when I needed you most, have you not been there for me?”

The Lord replied, “The years when you have seen only one set of footprints, my child, is when I carried you.”

anonymous
 
saw a movie on satellite the other night called Bruce Almighty with Jim Carey as a frustrated TV newscaster whose life was falling apart, mainly through his own pride, self-indulgence and arrogance. He hollers a lot at God and blames God for all his problems, and dares God to smite him. At one point he is driving down the road and yells at God “Give me a sign”. There is a flashing “Caution” lite, a bunch of Stop and Yield signs, beeping horns, which he ignores and drives into a pole. He dares God to answer him, his pager keeps going off, and he tosses it out the window.

very fluffy view of God and our relationship with him but made the point that God does give signs and does answer us, usually through the ordinary events and people we encounter in our daily life.

Goes on to meet God (Morgan Freeman, very good casting) who takes the week off and gives Carey His job temporarily. Lot of predictable gags, but tries to show the power of real prayer, and the futility of inane prayers. Like, everybody wins the lottery, but there are so many they only get 17 cents each, and they riot at lottery headquarters.

God does answer all prayers, and He did answer your prayer, you just didn’t like what you heard. Ask again, listen this time, and obey. Most of what He has to say to you is in the Bible, and you will get the rest in Church, along with explanations on what to do about it. Yes, one of the answers is change your attitude about money, which is the purpose of us asking you for some of yours (all of which was a gift from God in the first place.
 
What has God done in my life?

First let me say that we are all called to Charity, espeically in the midst of disrespect or misunderstanding. We are acalled to love all and give all the benefit of the doubt.

God has touched my life dramatically. In a nut shell. I lived a normal life, from a normal home. I suffered depression, thanks to family genes, bi-polar disorder, anxiety - all the normal things of adolesence. They just stuck with me into college. I committed a crime, while I was in RCIA. I was convicted of Att. 2nd Degree murder. I was confirmed in county Jail after receiving the super bowl of sacraments. I received Confession, The Annointing of the Sick, Confirmation and The Eucharist! After 7 years of prison, and during as well, I have never fought depression, suicide, or anxiety. I am working and going to school full time in both regards. I am getting all A’s and make more than most college graduates. This is not a testament to by abilties nor to just good fortune, but a testament to the forgiveing nature of God and the Love He has for us all. the hardest part of it is accepting the Love He has for us! He loves us just the same, but it is up to us to finally say, I can’t do it anymore - show me the way. He will, if you allow Him.

May God bless and Keep You because He loves you.:blessyou:
 
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