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Hello,

This is my first post, although I’ve heard many great things about this forum for quite some time.

I am participating in an excellent scripture this winter with a group of eight other women from my parish. The study is produced by Catholic Scripture Study International, and I am greatly enjoying it.

I am posting because we (the ladies in my study group and myself) are confused about a particular verse – Matthew 12:32. My NAB translation states “And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”

What does this mean? What would be an example of speaking against the holy spirit that is unforgivable?

Thanks for any help with this!
 
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aloveforgod:
Hello,

This is my first post, although I’ve heard many great things about this forum for quite some time.

I am participating in an excellent scripture this winter with a group of eight other women from my parish. The study is produced by Catholic Scripture Study International, and I am greatly enjoying it.

I am posting because we (the ladies in my study group and myself) are confused about a particular verse – Matthew 12:32. My NAB translation states “And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”

What does this mean? What would be an example of speaking against the holy spirit that is unforgivable?

Thanks for any help with this!
Jesus said this when he was accused by some religious leaders of his time of being possessed by the devil. of having an evil spirit. What I believe Jesus was saying was that no one could maintain the belief that Jesus was possessed by an evil spirit, because it simply wasn’t true. Those who thought so could never find peace with God until they changed that thought.

Another way to put it is this, The greatest crime, the unforgiveabe crime that the religious leaders committed was not that they had Jesus put to death. Not even if they were the ones that actually drove the nails into his hands and feet. The unforgiveable part of their crime was that they refused to accept that Jesus was the Messiah, the promised one, the Son of the Living God. They could be forgiven for putting Jesus to death. (that is the part about sins against the Son of Man) but it would never be ok that they thought Jesus was a demon. Their spirits would not find rest until they found it in them to accept that Jesus was who he claimed to be.

That is how I interpret that scripture.

peace

-Jim
 
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aloveforgod:
Hello,

This is my first post, although I’ve heard many great things about this forum for quite some time.

I am participating in an excellent scripture this winter with a group of eight other women from my parish. The study is produced by Catholic Scripture Study International, and I am greatly enjoying it.

I am posting because we (the ladies in my study group and myself) are confused about a particular verse – Matthew 12:32. My NAB translation states “And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”

What does this mean? What would be an example of speaking against the holy spirit that is unforgivable?

Thanks for any help with this!
aloveforgod:

Matt 12:31 - Therefore, I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. has to be included. They go together as a pair. Some scholars might say to include the whole interchange…

There’s a note 22 for verse 31 in the NAB: [31] Blasphemy against the Spirit: the sin of attributing to Satan (? Matthew 12:24) what is the work of the Spirit of God (? Matthew 12:28).

The Parisees had the tools to see that Jesus did what he did by the power and authority of God, and therfore had the ability to see that they needed to repent. Their refusal to repent, coupled with their abstinent hardness of heart and hatred towards our Lord, were unforgivable as they sealed not only their fates but Jerusalem’s as well (One of their own leaders, Rabbi Akiva, stated that Jerusalem was destroyed because of an unjust hatred on the part of it’s leaders and inhabitants).

The question is, how are we UNREPENTENT, OBSTINENT and HARD OF HEART? …

I hope this makes it a little clearer.

in Christ, Michael
 
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aloveforgod:
Hello,

This is my first post, although I’ve heard many great things about this forum for quite some time.

I am participating in an excellent scripture this winter with a group of eight other women from my parish. The study is produced by Catholic Scripture Study International, and I am greatly enjoying it.

I am posting because we (the ladies in my study group and myself) are confused about a particular verse – Matthew 12:32. My NAB translation states “And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”

What does this mean? What would be an example of speaking against the holy spirit that is unforgivable?

Thanks for any help with this!
The Church’s teaching is consistent with Mattew 12:32: Note the reference to the refusal to accept God’s mercy and salvation.

1864 “Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.” 136 There are no limits to the mercy of God, but anyone who deliberately refuses to accept his mercy by repenting, rejects the forgiveness of his sins and the salvation offered by the Holy Spirit. 137 Such hardness of heart can lead to final impenitence and eternal loss.

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Fr. Leo Haydock’s New Testament Commentary:

Ver. 31. The blasphemy[2] against the Spirit, or against the Spirit and the Holy Ghost. St. Augustine takes notice, that this is one of the most difficult places in the Scriptures. According to the common exposition, here is not meant a sin committed by speaking against the third person of the blessed Trinity, the Holy Ghost, but that sin by which the obstinate Jews wilfully opposed Christ, and attributed those miracles to Beelzebub, which he performed by the Spirit of God, of which they could not be ignorant, but by a wilful blindness. (Witham) — The sin here spoken of is that blasphemy, by which the Pharisees attributed the miracles of Christ, wrought by the Spirit of God, to Beelzebub, the prince of devils. Now this kind of sin is usually accompanied with so much obstinacy, and such wilful opposing the Spirit of God, and the known truth, that men who are guilty of it are seldom or ever converted; and therefore are never forgiven, because they will not repent. Otherwise there is no sin which God cannot, or will not forgive to such as sincerely request, and have recourse to the keys of the Church. (Challoner) — Therefore I say: this therefore is not referred to what immediately precedes, but to what is said in verse 24. (Maldonatus) — Whosoever he be, says St. Augustine, that believeth not man’s sins to be remitted in the Church of God, and therefore despiseth the bounteous mercies of God, in so mighty a work, if he continue in his obstinate mind till death, he is guilty of sin against the Holy Ghost. (Euchir. lxxxiii. ep. 50. in fine.)

Ver. 32. Whosoever, &c. It was their duty to have a knowledge of the Holy Ghost, and they obstinately refused to admit what was clear and manifest. Though they were ignorant of the divinity of Jesus Christ, and might take him to be merely the son of a poor artizan, they could not be ignorant that the expelling of demons, and miraculous healing of all diseases, were the works of the Holy Ghost. If, therefore, they refused to do penance for the insult offered to the Spirit of God, in the person of Christ, they could not hope to escape condign punishment. (St. Chrysostom, hom. xlii). — Against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; i.e. they who for want of sufficient instruction, were invincibly ignorant that Christ was God, might more easily be brought to the true knowledge and faith of Christ, and so receive forgiveness of their sins: but if he shall speak against the Holy Ghost, i.e. against the Spirit of God in Christ, and shall oppose the known truth, by attributing to the devil that doctrine, and those miracles, which evidently were from the Spirit and the hand of God, that sin shall never be forgiven him. But how is this consistent with the Catholic doctrine and belief, that there is no sin any man commits of which he may not obtain pardon in this life? To this I answer, that in what manner soever we expound this place, it is an undoubted point of Christian faith, that there is no sin which our merciful God is not ready to pardon; no sin, for the remission of which, God hath not left a power in his Church, as it is clearly proved by those words, Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them, &c. St. Chrysostom therefore expounds these words, shall not be forgiven them, to imply no more, than shall scarcely, or seldom be forgiven; that is, it is very hard for such sinners to return to God, by a true and sincere repentance and conversion; so that this sentence is like that (Matthew xix. 26.) where Christ seems to call it an impossible thing for a rich man to be saved. In the same place St. Chrysostom tells us, that someof those who had blasphemed against the Holy Ghost, repented, and had their sins forgiven them. **St. Augustine, by this blasphemy against the Spirit, understands the sin of final impenitence, by which an obstinate sinner refuseth to be converted, and therefore lives and dies hardened in his sins. ** (Witham) — Nor in the world to come. From these words St. Augustine (De Civ. lib. xxi. chap. 13.) and St. Gregory (Dial. iv, chap. 39.) gather, that some sins may be remitted in the world to come; and consequently that there is a purgatory, or a middle place. (Challoner) — St. Augustine says these words would not be true, if some sins were not forgiven in the world to come; and St. Gregory says, we are to believe from these words in the existence of the fire of purgatory, to expiate our smaller offences, before the day of judgment. St. Isidore and Ven. Bede say the same. St. Bernard, speaking of heretics, says, they do not believe in purgatory: let them then inquire of our Saviour, what he meant by these words. — It is well known that Ven. Bede, on his death-bed, bestowed several small tokens to the monks who were present, that they might remember to pray for his soul in the holy sacrifice of the mass. (Haydock)
 
Beelzebub and the Philistines
The name Ba’al-zebub is associated with the Philistine city of Ekron. In 2 Kings, after Moab rebelled against Israel, Ahaziah had fallen and injured himself. To find out if he’d recover from the injury he sent out messengers, telling them:
“Go and inquire of Baalzebub, the god of Ekron, whether I shall recover from this injury.” - 2 Kings 1:2
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The Lord, however sent Elijah to intercept the messengers on their way to Ekron, asking them if they seek Baalzebub’s advice because there is no God of Israel and instructing them to return home and inform their master that he shall not recover.
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Beelzebub in the Testament of Solomon
In the Testament of Solomon (1st-3rd centuries CE), Solomon learns that Beelzeboul is one of the fallen angels who destroys by means of tyrants, causes demons to be worshipped, arouses desires in priests, brings about jealousies and murders, and instigates wars. The other demon he refers to as being imprisoned in the Red Sea is the one-winged demon, Abezethibou, Moses’ adversary in Egypt.
deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/mythology/beelzebub.asp

newadvent.org/cathen/02388c.htm

By attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to Satan they were in effect saying that there is no God in isreal thus they were atheists.
 
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