I need some info ASAP...please help

[SHJ-BVM]

This question was asked of me today by a confirmation student and I honestly don’t know the answer.

Can anyone tell me if there is ‘collective term’ in Catholicism for the combined rites of baptism, eucharist, reconcilliation, and confirmation. I’m thinking it’s called the “Rite of Initiation”.

If this is it, is it part of the Roman Catholicism , Byzanntine, and/or Greek Orthodox doctrine?

Thank you for everyones help.
Patricia

 

[_veritas]

Well, I’m no expert, but I do know that the Roman Catholic program for bringing adult non-Catholics into the Church is called RCIA–Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults.

The RCIA program prepares participants for all the sacraments you metioned, depending on their need. For example, if someone was already validly baptized, they would be given first Confession, Confirmation and first Eucharist through the program. Someone who was not already baptized would be given Baptism (taking away all sin w/o need for Confession at that time), Confirmation, and first Eucharist (they would also be prepared for later Confessions). All of this is typically done at the Easter Vigil Mass, all at once (except if the person does need a private first Confession of course–that is done beforehand).

Therefore, you could then call all those sacraments - Baptism, Confirmation, Confession, and Eucharist “Initiation” sacraments, and the process of going through them all (as needed) collectively the “rite of initiation”.

Under general circumstances, I believe only the sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation are techincally considered the sacraments of initiation.

No idea how this relates to non-Latin-rite Catholics…

+veritas+

 

[David_F]

SHJ-BVM:

This question was asked of me today by a confirmation student and I honestly don’t know the answer.

Can anyone tell me if there is ‘collective term’ in Catholicism for the combined rites of baptism, eucharist, reconcilliation, and confirmation. I’m thinking it’s called the “Rite of Initiation”.

If this is it, is it part of the Roman Catholicism , Byzanntine, and/or Greek Orthodox doctrine?

Thank you for everyones help.
Patricia

In the Catholic Church, the “Sacraments of Initiation” are Baptism, Eucharist and Confirmation as a collective term. I wouldn’t think either the Byz or the Greek Orth. are any different. Hope it helps.

David

 

[Annunciata]

SHJ-BVM:

This question was asked of me today by a confirmation student and I honestly don’t know the answer.

Can anyone tell me if there is ‘collective term’ in Catholicism for the combined rites of baptism, eucharist, reconcilliation, and confirmation. I’m thinking it’s called the “Rite of Initiation”.

If this is it, is it part of the Roman Catholicism , Byzanntine, and/or Greek Orthodox doctrine?

Thank you for everyones help.
Patricia

I taught Confirmation for 25 years it is referred to as a “Sacrament of Initiation” (Baptism, Communion & Confirmation) and in the Eastern Rite is is referred to as “Chrismation”(sp) - somebody please correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[David_F]

Annunciata:

I taught Confirmation for 25 years it is referred to as a “Sacrament of Initiation” (Baptism, Communion & Confirmation) and in the Eastern Rite is is referred to as “Chrismation”(sp) - somebody please correct me if I’m wrong.

Yes, after I posted, I found this… goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article7105.asp

Luckily there are both Greek Orthodox and Byzantine Catholics here on this forum. They can probably fill you in a little more. Annunciata has it correct.

David

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

Your correct it would be the “Rite of Initiation”. RCIA the Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults is made up of several other Rites.

The Rite of Acceptance (for those not Baptized)
The Rite of Welcome (for those already Baptized)
The Rite of Sending (for both)
The Rite of Continuing Conversion (for those already Baptized)
The Rite of Election (for those not Baptized)
The Rite of Initiation - (Baptism, Confirmation, Holy Communion)
The Rite of Reception - (Profession of Faith and Confirmation)
Then there is the “Combined Rite” which is Initiation and Reception

 

[SHJ-BVM]

Thank you all for your help. I have passed on all the info to the student.

Peace and Godspeed.

Patricia

 

[akemner]

I have never heard us (Byzantine Rite) refer to these Sacraments collectively (that does not mean that there is not a term). Colloquially we say “Baptism,” but we mean Baptism, Chrismation, and Communion. This begins with the Rite of Exorcism (the same three prayers that are used when someone is possessed by a demon). This is fun, because we get to spit on the Devil. Then there the person is made a Catechumen. After this is the Baptism, followed by a chrismation that enrolls the person into the Royal Priesthood of the people and into the common school of Prophets that all Christians are part of. Then the Chrismation (confimation) when the person is made fully a member of the Church by the sealing of the Holy Spirit. Then the Eucharist is given (one must be Chrismated before Eucharist, though we make allowances for RC children, however, RC custom is rather recent, and the ancient way is as described). Of course, Confession is not needed until the person sins.

In Christ,
Adam