I really fear for my country

[Captain_America]

. . . I see the US as being just too easily jerked around by political agitations and a highly-complicit, hand-in-hand liberal media.

I’m a political moderate saying this! No fearful right winger.

I also see a much more powerful federal state, buzzing high on the adrenaline of National Security fears, being very very willing to put its fist hither and yon!

I’m a moderate saying this!

The collaboration of the media with the liberals is horrible for two reasons: it keeps the liberal perspective from ever coming under real public scrutiny (turns everything into Rep. vs. Dem. tugs of war). . . and it also allows for knee-jerk, over the top reaction. Consider the flap about Indiana.

Computers, the spying out of internet use and users, etc., make the federal government a real problem for serious citizens. Where’s the restraining public hand?

Read Sharyl Attkinson’s book. It’s disturbing, this brew that’s been put together for us.

 

[jinglebelle]

I hate to mention this on april 1st but you are captain america

 

[TigerKitty]

I agree with you, and I’m a moderate (independent), too. But even to voice these concerns will cause you too be labeled as a crazy right winger. There is no place to safely voice even the slightest hint of a critical viewpoint without making oneself a target…and I feel we’ve lost the capacity for civil discussion. The current political climate can be summed up as, “agree or be annihilated”. Scary, indeed.

 

[Beryllos]

No doubt about it. There is a lot that’s wrong with the United States.

Trying to be optimistic, I quote Winston Churchill:
“Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”
We may experience our own Babylonian Exile, but good will come of it someday.
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come;
thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
Amen

 

[pianistclare]

No doubt about it. There is a lot that’s wrong with the United States.

Trying to be optimistic, I quote Winston Churchill:
“Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”
We may experience our own Babylonian Exile, but good will come of it someday.
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come;
thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
Amen

YUP.
Also, pray especially for the protection/intercession of The Immaculate Conception,
patroness of the United States.

 

[tawny]

No doubt about it. There is a lot that’s wrong with the United States.

Trying to be optimistic, I quote Winston Churchill:
“Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”
We may experience our own Babylonian Exile, but good will come of it someday.
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come;
thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
Amen

Amen.

 

[edwest2]

. . . I see the US as being just too easily jerked around by political agitations and a highly-complicit, hand-in-hand liberal media.

I’m a political moderate saying this! No fearful right winger.

I also see a much more powerful federal state, buzzing high on the adrenaline of National Security fears, being very very willing to put its fist hither and yon!

I’m a moderate saying this!

The collaboration of the media with the liberals is horrible for two reasons: it keeps the liberal perspective from ever coming under real public scrutiny (turns everything into Rep. vs. Dem. tugs of war). . . and it also allows for knee-jerk, over the top reaction. Consider the flap about Indiana.

Computers, the spying out of internet use and users, etc., make the federal government a real problem for serious citizens. Where’s the restraining public hand?

Read Sharyl Attkinson’s book. It’s disturbing, this brew that’s been put together for us.

Fear is the current product being marketed to us by the media, and the media portrays characters that respond to fear in irrational ways, or shows graphic to very graphic scenes of irrational and psychopathic people harming and killing others.

WAKE UP! Showing an average dad chaining up some young people, male or female, and doing terrible things to them is NOT entertainment. Every time you watch that it sticks in your brain. There was a movie where a young woman is portrayed as going from happy and normal to “I’m going to gun down whoever I want.” I watched a portion of it. One guy she kills at point-blank range and another gets three slugs. ‘Yeah,’ a few wrote, ‘they deserved it.’ YOU deserve not watching movies like this.

Washington is the greedy, tax hungry, special interest infested place it’s been for a while now. Every election cycle – it’s find some mud on the other guy and throw it as hard as you can. Yes, Candidate A did vote for something bad but he also voted for more good things, while his opponent voted for some good things but mostly bad things.

Don’t get spoon-fed and be passive. It’s our time to get the facts. The media puts profits and coddling special interests ahead of telling us the whole, both sides of the story in too many cases today. Instead, we only get one side in too many cases.

No. The world is not as bad as they say, but they want you to be afraid so that you’ll freeze up and not do the right thing: get the facts, learn about the issues and yes, contact somebody at a media outlet and tell them to stop it. You’re fed up. You should be. And tell them why.

Don’t worry about those agencies that start with a C or an N, unless you actually are doing something illegal. They’ve got your cell, the internet/facebook/twitter, etc. on speed-scan.

Ed

 

[pianistclare]

This^^^.

Years ago my dad cancelled his subscription to TIME magazine. He had been a subscriber since it’s early years. The President of TIME called asked why, and offered to send it for free to one of their original customers.
My father told him it was because they no longer presented both sides.
They no longer let the reader decide.
They no longer were unbiased.
He was no longer interested in the propaganda machine.

The man was silent on the other end of the phone. Wouldn’t he like a free subscription?
No, daddy said. Don’t cut down any more trees if you’re not going to offer solid journalism. And my dad wasn’t exactly a tree hugger.
But I was so proud of him.

 

[Beryllos]

Fear is the current product being marketed to us by the media, and the media portrays characters that respond to fear in irrational ways, or shows graphic to very graphic scenes of irrational and psychopathic people harming and killing others.
…

I wasn’t thinking about that. I am more worried about the national debt, consumer debt, unemployment, welfare, AND too many Americans wasting their time watching stupid TV shows with stupid commercials, or staring zombie-like at cell phones, AND the continual beating of war drums and talk of a war with Iran which we can scarcely afford — if our reckless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan didn’t already bankrupt the country, war with Iran certainly will. Did I mention moral decline?

 

[edwest2]

This^^^.

Years ago my dad cancelled his subscription to TIME magazine. He had been a subscriber since it’s early years. The President of TIME called asked why, and offered to send it for free to one of their original customers.
My father told him it was because they no longer presented both sides.
They no longer let the reader decide.
They no longer were unbiased.
He was no longer interested in the propaganda machine.

The man was silent on the other end of the phone. Wouldn’t he like a free subscription?
No, daddy said. Don’t cut down any more trees if you’re not going to offer solid journalism. And my dad wasn’t exactly a tree hugger.
But I was so proud of him.

Good for him. I had to stop buying a magazine I had bought for years because they decided to slowly drop in some vulgar language. So I now get my particular brand of coverage in place of this magazine from sites that present good, solid information, minus useless, offensive words, which, sadly, are creeping into other magazines.

Ed

 

[edwest2]

I wasn’t thinking about that. I am more worried about the national debt, consumer debt, unemployment, welfare, AND too many Americans wasting their time watching stupid TV shows with stupid commercials, or staring zombie-like at cell phones, AND the continual beating of war drums and talk of a war with Iran which we can scarcely afford — if our reckless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan didn’t already bankrupt the country, war with Iran certainly will. Did I mention moral decline?

“There’s no money in peace.”

I mention moral decline every chance I get. Is that the government’s fault? I don’t think so. Single motherhood is the quickest road to poverty in this country and who’s going to raise her child? The TV, her mom, a relative, the gang down the street?

Turn off your TV. Scan the headlines. Look out the window. If there’s no mushroom cloud in the distance, get up, go to work, and so on. Read the news. NEVER watch it on TV. Listen to Catholic Radio for balance.

At the risk of sounding war-like, IRAN HAS NOTHING. We have deep penetration bombs, laser guided bombs, cruise missiles, fleets of bombers. How many aircraft carriers does Iran have? We could carpet bomb every known and suspected military and nuclear installation in the country. And Defense Contractors here want this! They’ve got to move inventory.

Ed

 

[Beryllos]

… And Defense Contractors here want this! They’ve got to move inventory.

So true. The good-old Military-Industrial Complex.

Iran may not have much military strength, but I’m looking at their population and land mass, which are much larger than Iraq or Afghanistan. That’s why I’m guessing it would be much more costly, and risky.

 

[Captain_America]

This^^^.

Years ago my dad cancelled his subscription to TIME magazine. He had been a subscriber since it’s early years. The President of TIME called asked why, and offered to send it for free to one of their original customers.
My father told him it was because they no longer presented both sides.
They no longer let the reader decide.
They no longer were unbiased.
He was no longer interested in the propaganda machine.

The man was silent on the other end of the phone. Wouldn’t he like a free subscription?
No, daddy said. Don’t cut down any more trees if you’re not going to offer solid journalism. And my dad wasn’t exactly a tree hugger.
But I was so proud of him.

Very cool story. Great that your Dad had a voice there.

 

[Captain_America]

I wasn’t thinking about that. I am more worried about the national debt, consumer debt, unemployment, welfare, AND too many Americans wasting their time watching stupid TV shows with stupid commercials, or staring zombie-like at cell phones, AND the continual beating of war drums and talk of a war with Iran which we can scarcely afford — if our reckless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan didn’t already bankrupt the country, war with Iran certainly will. Did I mention moral decline?

Oh, my friend, I worry about these things, too, and who, in contemporary politics, which Senator?, makes any noise about these things?

The scary thing with the homosexual issue is how a total of about 50 people can steamroll the country.

 

[Captain_America]

I agree with you, and I’m a moderate (independent), too. But even to voice these concerns will cause you too be labeled as a crazy right winger. There is no place to safely voice even the slightest hint of a critical viewpoint without making oneself a target…and I feel we’ve lost the capacity for civil discussion. The current political climate can be summed up as, “agree or be annihilated”. Scary, indeed.

Yeah, this is the problem. Where’s the reasoned tone, the discussion among people who are respectful and decent to each other?

Why all the name calling and provocative stuff?

I have liberals calling me conservative, and conservatives calling me liberal, and I just feel like there’s no political home for me.

 

[JoeFreedom]

“There’s no money in peace.”

At the risk of sounding war-like, IRAN HAS NOTHING. We have deep penetration bombs, laser guided bombs, cruise missiles, fleets of bombers. How many aircraft carriers does Iran have? We could carpet bomb every known and suspected military and nuclear installation in the country. And Defense Contractors here want this! They’ve got to move inventory.

Ed

Even still, Iran’s nuclear program is not to first annihilate the U.S., but rather Israel; and has been outright in admitting to the destruction of Israel. So while we may be then able to wipe Iran off the face of the planet in countermeasure, (not that our current anti-Israel administration would even consider such a thing) for nuking Israel, our retaliation would not bring back the Jewish people who were killed.

 

[edwest2]

So true. The good-old Military-Industrial Complex.

Iran may not have much military strength, but I’m looking at their population and land mass, which are much larger than Iraq or Afghanistan. That’s why I’m guessing it would be much more costly, and risky.

I truly hope diplomacy works. Yes, that mat sound too optimistic but it should be the first line of defense. Population and land mass are not the issue, nuclear capability is. Setting it back by years, even a few, may mean doing it again in a few if the first attack does not work to deter them. Doing nothing may be judged by those who have the classified information to be too costly and risky.

Ed

 

[JoeFreedom]

I truly hope diplomacy works. Yes, that mat sound too optimistic but it should be the first line of defense. Population and land mass are not the issue, nuclear capability is. Setting it back by years, even a few, may mean doing it again in a few if the first attack does not work to deter them. Doing nothing may be judged by those who have the classified information to be too costly and risky.

I wish diplomacy would work, but we are talking about Iran. Quote from their supreme leader: "Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called over the weekend for the destruction of Israel, stating that the “barbaric” Jewish state “has no cure but to be annihilated.” – Although he does later state that it should be done through the elimination of their government, I believe this is simply a bold-faced lie.

You don’t get more blunt than that. Diplomacy does not work with radical nutjobs.

 

[Inisfallen]

Even still, Iran’s nuclear program is not to first annihilate the U.S., but rather Israel; and has been outright in admitting to the destruction of Israel. So while we may be then able to wipe Iran off the face of the planet in countermeasure, (not that our current anti-Israel administration would even consider such a thing) for nuking Israel, our retaliation would not bring back the Jewish people who were killed.

Iran’s nuclear program is not a threat to the United States. First of all, they don’t have a bomb yet, and second, they don’t have any way of delivering it, if they did, to the US. No ICBMs, no nuclear-armed subs, no long-range bombers.

They’re kind of like North Korea. NK has a bomb (so they’re ahead of Iran), but they can’t really threaten anyone with it except for maybe South Korea. I suppose it’s possible that they could threaten Japan, but even NK isn’t crazy enough to threaten China.

 

[Selah_KY]

Yeah, this is the problem. Where’s the reasoned tone, the discussion among people who are respectful and decent to each other?

Why all the name calling and provocative stuff?

I have liberals calling me conservative, and conservatives calling me liberal, and I just feel like there’s no political home for me.

I really have no idea if you are what you say you are, but it’s difficult to take you seriously when you say this is a problem of the “liberal” media and leave FOX completely out of the equation.