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vluvski
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So, I’m feeling pretty depressed right now. I am 3/4 through my first chart and my mucus signs indicate I’m well past ovulation, but no higher temps.
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Chovy
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Wow. There could be a lot of different causes for that but the one that is hitting me is delayed ovulation. Were you under any stress during the time of ovulation or pre-ovulation? Sometimes the body has it’s own way of dealing with that, by ceasing the mucus cycle and then restarting it when it feels that it’s safe to do so.
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1ke
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A couple of things:
First, this is only your first cycle charting, so don’t jumpt to major conclusions based on one chart. You will see patterns emerge over time.
If you did not have a thermal shift, but did have a mucus pattern showing fertile mucus and dry up, then you may not have ovulated at all this cycle. Mucus in only an indicator that ovulation is approaching, the thermal shift confirms that ovulation did occur.
The luteal phase is the time from ovulation to menstruation, so if you did not ovulate you are not in the luteal phase at this point. A defective luteal phase would be more along the lines of being short (less than 9 days) or having brown spotting (all indicating a low progesterone problem). The lack of thermal shift isn’t an indication of a luteal phase problem, it is an ovulation related phenomenon.
It is possible (ie, normal) to have an anovulatory cycle from time to time, and it is also possible to have your period even when not ovulating.
Please wait until you have several cycles before you make judgments about your cycles. Then you will be better able to assess them, and have data to talk to a doctor or nurse.
Stress is also a major factor, so perhaps you have had some stress that could be impacting your cycle this month.
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vluvski
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well, that could be the case. I noted a peak, 1, 2, then saw fertile mucus again, and now it’s 7 or 8 past peak I think (I don’t have my chart in front of me.)
I’m trying not to jump to conclusions or get too bummed- after all, it’s just one chart. But still… There was one high temp right after the second peak mucus day, then they dropped back down to the highest pre-ovulation temp. My cervical position seems totally random- on day it’s high and hard, the next day it’s so soft it’s hard to tell I’ve actually found it. The weird thing is I did see elevated temperatures when I started charting the end of my previous cycle, but they began dropping the very next day and then about 3 days later began menses.
And joy of joys, my phase II started on day 5.
I’m trying not to jump to conclusions or get too bummed- after all, it’s just one chart. But still… There was one high temp right after the second peak mucus day, then they dropped back down to the highest pre-ovulation temp. My cervical position seems totally random- on day it’s high and hard, the next day it’s so soft it’s hard to tell I’ve actually found it. The weird thing is I did see elevated temperatures when I started charting the end of my previous cycle, but they began dropping the very next day and then about 3 days later began menses.
And joy of joys, my phase II started on day 5.
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Feanaro_s_Wife
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**Please try not to stress…I know that is much easier said than done, but it’s for your own good
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When I started NFP I was so confused and frustrated. Nothing seemed to make sense. But after awhile I got better at interpretting signs and as I grew more confident the charts seemed to make more sense.
You have received some excellent advice so I won’t repeat it…but I will repeat DON’T STRESS!!! That alone could make your cycles all crazy.
Malia
**When I started NFP I was so confused and frustrated. Nothing seemed to make sense. But after awhile I got better at interpretting signs and as I grew more confident the charts seemed to make more sense.
You have received some excellent advice so I won’t repeat it…but I will repeat DON’T STRESS!!! That alone could make your cycles all crazy.
Malia
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vluvski
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Lol, don’t stress.
I’m planning a wedding long distance, living alone away from all my friends and family while my father is out of work with a herniated disc, his father just passed away, my sister just broke up with her boyfriend, my fiance is flipping out over all the stuff that still isn’t done for the wedding, my bank is stealing money from me and changed my address to my parents’ address (where I have NEVER lived) and say I can’t change it back without being there in person with a driver’s license, dealing with less than logical coworkers (welcome to kindergarten, kids!)… the list goes on.
don’t stess…
I’m planning a wedding long distance, living alone away from all my friends and family while my father is out of work with a herniated disc, his father just passed away, my sister just broke up with her boyfriend, my fiance is flipping out over all the stuff that still isn’t done for the wedding, my bank is stealing money from me and changed my address to my parents’ address (where I have NEVER lived) and say I can’t change it back without being there in person with a driver’s license, dealing with less than logical coworkers (welcome to kindergarten, kids!)… the list goes on.
don’t stess…
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Feanaro_s_Wife
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** Hving stress in your life does not equal stressing out. It is a cross to bear for sure, but that’s where God comes in. If there were ever a time you needed His peace, it is now!!! You sure have a lot on your plate. I sympathize with you.**
**I have gone through many periods in my life where it seemed like the stressors were absolutely overwhelming…but I have come **to learn (very slowly, lol) that “stressing out” NEVER helps…more often than not it makes the situation worse. Stressing out is bad for your health.
I would suggest lots of prayer to help you deal with these situations (but praying to take the situations away or “fix” them will most likely just leave you more stressed when it doesn’t happen). Pray for the Lo****rd’s peace…it exists, trust me. If I hadn’t found it when i did I would most likely be locked up in some mental hospital by now
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But some people don’t know how to live without stressing out and are resistant to learning how to have more peace. I know one person in particular like that…no piece of advice in the wor can make her want to learn how not to be so stressed out…
I will say a prayer for you right now
malia
**I have gone through many periods in my life where it seemed like the stressors were absolutely overwhelming…but I have come **to learn (very slowly, lol) that “stressing out” NEVER helps…more often than not it makes the situation worse. Stressing out is bad for your health.
I would suggest lots of prayer to help you deal with these situations (but praying to take the situations away or “fix” them will most likely just leave you more stressed when it doesn’t happen). Pray for the Lo****rd’s peace…it exists, trust me. If I hadn’t found it when i did I would most likely be locked up in some mental hospital by now
.But some people don’t know how to live without stressing out and are resistant to learning how to have more peace. I know one person in particular like that…no piece of advice in the wor can make her want to learn how not to be so stressed out…
I will say a prayer for you right now
malia
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1ke
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I also was working full time and planning a wedding long distance (well, the groom was long distance, I was not) and I know all about stress… or what I thought was stress… it did have some impact on my cycle, but seemed to go in levels.Lol, don’t stress.
I’m planning a wedding long distance, living alone away from all my friends and family while my father is out of work with a herniated disc, his father just passed away, my sister just broke up with her boyfriend, my fiance is flipping out over all the stuff that still isn’t done for the wedding, my bank is stealing money from me and changed my address to my parents’ address (where I have NEVER lived) and say I can’t change it back without being there in person with a driver’s license, dealing with less than logical coworkers (welcome to kindergarten, kids!)… the list goes on.
don’t stess…
What I mean is… I had a weird cycle, then my body would adjust to the stress level and then it would even back out… then more stress, another anomaly, then straighten out. I charted for almost a year before the wedding, and I did see much variation across those months, especially being able to identify specific events that had produced more stress.
Of course, then I broke my ankle & had surgery on our honeymoon-- and I saw what real stress on your body does to your cycle & chart. Wow! It’s been six months and is still not back to “normal”… “normal” being pre-break charts.
I chart Creighton, which I find to be much easier than STM. It’s just preference, but also at my age, Creighton has more to offer for the type of problem you are concerned about-- short luteal phase, hormone imbalance, fertility issues, etc. I wanted to be able to consult with Dr Hilgers should I need to.
You’ll get the hang of it. And, if you don’t feel confident in STM after a few months, investigate Creighton, Billings, etc.
You’ll be just fine, a real pro by the time you are married.
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