I think some people can’t become Christian because of predestined. Also some can’t access to the Eucharist anyway

[Needy1]

According to Christianity, eating the Eucharist is the most important objective in human lifetimes, right? Then why are some people can’t access to the Eucharist? Like some muslims who born from the parents and society of Islam fundamentalists. I think some get killed if they try to leave from them. What about some countries where Christians didn’t exist until modern generation?

And, if not both Catholic and Orthodox Church are true church of Christ, either whole westerners or whole easterners were not able to access to the Eucharist, since either regions had no Catholic or Orthodox Church, for more than a thousand years I guess?

 

[ahs]

According to Christianity, eating the Eucharist is the most important objective in human lifetimes, right?

No. Being Baptized is the most important. Next to that is remaining in Christ, because only He can save us.
Baptism is available to ALL who seek it. And the Church has made it her mission (actually, Jesus made it the Church’s mission) to bring ALL peoples to Him and to Baptize them.

 

[steve-b]

According to Christianity, eating the Eucharist is the most important objective in human lifetimes, right?

From the Catechism (CCC)

1324 The Eucharist is “the source and summit of the Christian life.” “The other sacraments, and indeed all ecclesiastical ministries and works of the apostolate, are bound up with the Eucharist and are oriented toward it. For in the blessed Eucharist is contained the whole spiritual good of the Church, namely Christ himself, our Pasch.”

As Jesus said, Re: the Eucharist, making a conditional statement out of it,

“Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; 54 he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56 He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me."
From [Jn 6:53-57]

Needy1:

Then why are some people can’t access to the Eucharist? Like some muslims who born from the parents and society of Islam fundamentalists. I think some get killed if they try to leave from them. What about some countries where Christians didn’t exist until modern generation?

And, if not both Catholic and Orthodox Church are true church of Christ, either whole westerners or whole easterners were not able to access to the Eucharist, since either regions had no Catholic or Orthodox Church, for more than a thousand years I guess?

If one can’t access the Catholic Church through no fault of their own, then Jesus judges them on how well they responded to grace.

Re: Catholic Church,

The Catholic Church is the only Church Jesus established on Peter and those in union with him. And it’s here today with Pope Francis 266th successor to St Peter in Rome at the helm. No other organization on the planet qualifies for this. Since Jesus insists on Perfect Unity AND Jesus said the HS who inspires all, only speaks what He hears from Jesus , meaning Jesus wants everyone to be in His One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church.

 

[Needy1]

No. Being Baptized is the most important.

Are you a Protestant?

Baptism is available to ALL who seek it

How can the children get baptized if his mother going to do abortion? What about children who die under 10 y/o etc? What about some Asian countries where Christians didn’t exist until modern generation? What about people who born before the John the Baptist?

They can’t get baptized since they aren’t able to seek it I guess?

 

[Gorgias]

According to Christianity, eating the Eucharist is the most important objective in human lifetimes, right?

No. As others have mentioned, that’s not correct. What’s “most important”, one would think, is attaining to heaven. The Catholic Church recognizes that those who aren’t Catholics – or even Christians – can nevertheless reach heaven.

In addition, your notion of ‘predestination’ – in your thread title – seems to be a bit backward. ‘Predestination’ doesn’t prevent you from taking an action; it’s merely a recognition that God is able to know what action you choose to take.

How can the children get baptized if his mother going to do abortion? What about children who die under 10 y/o etc?

We say that we trust God in His word when He says that He wishes all to be saved. That means that He doesn’t just ‘throw away’ those who, through no fault of their own, did not experience baptism. Rather, we trust God to be true to His word and to save them through means other than which we know He has asked us to follow. We’re bound to the sacraments; God is not.

 

[ahs]

Are you a Protestant?

No. I am answering in terms of first priority. The Eucharist is the source and summit of the Christian life…the CHRISTIAN life. But first, you need to be Christian. “Baptism now saves you”, says the Word of God. “Unless man is born of water AND the Spirit, he cannot enter into Heaven”, says the Word of God. Non-Christians need to be Baptized into Christ…that’s “the most important objective”. After that comes participation in the Eucharist, without which we have no life within us.

How can the children get baptized if his mother going to do abortion? What about children who die under 10 y/o etc? What about some Asian countries where Christians didn’t exist until modern generation? What about people who born before the John the Baptist?

They can’t get baptized since they aren’t able to seek it I guess?

Baptism of Desire. Salvation by means known only to God. What about the Jews who died before Jesus came to save? Same thing. WE are bound to the sacraments, but God is not bound by them.

 

[guanophore]

According to Christianity, eating the Eucharist is the most important objective in human lifetimes, right?

I am not sure what you mean by this. Eucharist is only open to those who are in a state of grace, and are already disciples of Christ.

The most important objective in this life is for people to come to know Christ as saviour. After that, to live a life of discipleship, and when that is completed, to be with Him in eternity forever.

Then why are some people can’t access to the Eucharist?

You seem to be confused.

I think some get killed if they try to leave from them.

I understand that English is not your first language. God does not condemn those who are unable to receive the Eucharist.

What about some countries where Christians didn’t exist until modern generation?

Such as?

God judges people based upon what has been revealed to them, and whether they respond to the grace He has given.

 

[guanophore]

Are you a Protestant?

A non-baptized person is not allowed to have communion. Baptism is the entrance rite into the Church.

What about children who die under 10 y/o etc?

What magically happens at the age of 10?

What about some Asian countries where Christians didn’t exist until modern generation?

Can you give an example?

What about people who born before the John the Baptist?

Now you are drifting from your original question. All people who are saved are only saved through Jesus Christ. Jesus provided the Church as the avenue through which human beings are saved.

They can’t get baptized since they aren’t able to seek it I guess?

On the contrary, all the prophets and saints before Jesus did seek Him and looked forward to His coming.

 

[Annie]

This is how I see it: Christ gave us a map to Heaven, and this is the best way.

However, we trust in God’s mercy and justice towards those who never found out about the map, but who still tried to follow God’s word within their hearts.

He will judge each according to what he was given, as it says in the Bible, there is more expected from those who receive more. If a person knows nothing of Christ or the Eucharist or the need for baptism, but still followws the grace of God in the form of inner prompting of the heart, God will judge him based on that.

 

[Needy1]

Ty for the answers, everyone.