We are talking about humans when death entered into the world the physical death of humans and not the rest of the animal kingdom. The creation of man was unique. It did not mean the rest of the Universe was not decaying as you put it. It was certain that yes volcanoes were erupting, yes earthquakes were occurring and yes the dinosaurs came and died off as a species but when the time came to create man God did not create a cave man species but a unique individual that was named Adam. He was special for he did not know of sin. When he did sinned than a change occurred in him and in every human that followed after him. Remember though that before Adam and after the sin and of Adam that the forces of volcanoes, earthquakes and so on including the death of animal species were all part of God’s creation and were never effected by the sin of Adam and Eve. The only effect of that sin was imparted only to humans not to the creation of the world and not to the rest of the Universe for the world and the Universe was always the same.If death (also for ex. natural disasters that caused death), suffering, decay etc. entered the universe due to the sin of the human being (whole world/universe became ‘fallen’), then what about the time before humans first appeared (and sinned) on earth? There already was death, natural disasters, suffering,decay etc. in the universe/world before human species emerged. Please explain. Thank you.
Doesn’t the Roman Catholic Church state that whole world(universe) including material world- whole creation, became ‘fallen’ as a result of human sin/original sin ?We are talking about humans when death entered into the world the physical death of humans and not the rest of the animal kingdom. The creation of man was unique. It did not mean the rest of the Universe was not decaying as you put it. It was certain that yes volcanoes were erupting, yes earthquakes were occurring and yes the dinosaurs came and died off as a species but when the time came to create man God did not create a cave man species but a unique individual that was named Adam. He was special for he did not know of sin. When he did sinned than a change occurred in him and in every human that followed after him. Remember though that before Adam and after the sin and of Adam that the forces of volcanoes, earthquakes and so on including the death of animal species were all part of God’s creation and were never effected by the sin of Adam and Eve. The only effect of that sin was imparted only to humans not to the creation of the world and not to the rest of the Universe for the world and the Universe was always the same.
Death took on new significance because of Who was eventually to arrive, Jesus.Doesn’t the Roman Catholic Church state that whole world(universe) including material world- whole creation, became ‘fallen’ as a result of human sin/original sin ?
If like you say “volcanoes were erupting, yes earthquakes were occurring” then these and other natural disasters/forces would have caused death and suffering before the original sin also.
Are you also saying that there was no cave men ?
The evolution of this earth took billions of years. This evolution must involve earthquakes, volcanoes, asteroids, meteors and so on before man came into existence. When God created Adam it was at a certain time much after the dinosaurs and yes when Adam was created there were forces in the world that would have been destructive but God put Adam into a garden where there destructive forces were not available to Adam. It is certain when Adam had sinned the only changed that came from this sin was the change in man. Original sin brought physical death into the world for all humanity. Before this Original Sin there was no physical death. I do not believe in the cave men theory of what evolution is saying about the creation of man. In Genesis man was created flawless so that after he sinned you can say they lived in caves and so on not before. The forces of the world would impact humanity after Adam’s sin because man and woman were no longer part of that paradise God had specifically given to our first parents. This does not mean the destructive forces of the planet were not there. They were but not in the Garden which God had placed them but you can say outside this Garden. The creation of humanity while it has a short history (you can get a whole line of this family tree in Luke’s Gospel) from Adam to us is nothing compared to the longer history of this planet. God had taken billions of years to create this planet so that He would create finally the first humans. Before Adam and Eve there was the dinosaurs and other species of vegetation and animals that God had created and also God must use the forces of comets, meteors and asteroids to create the many types of chemicals that are now found on this Earth. The impacts of comets, asteroids and meteors are able to create the many types of minerals, rocks and other types of chemicals. Oil and gas for instance must be created through a very long period of time so that the young Earth with the combination of certain plants, bacteria and other sources such as intense heat and so on will create the oil and gas we have today. The Earth was very hot in its early stage of life even though the Sun was cooler. Why? It has to do with the many volcanoes at that time exploding on the Earth that had created this green house effect to warm up the planet. While this warming trend was in effect God created dinosaurs and other species to live in the type of environment the Earth had. All of this was millions of years before Adam and Eve would ever appeared.Doesn’t the Roman Catholic Church state that whole world(universe) including material world- whole creation, became ‘fallen’ as a result of human sin/original sin ?
If like you say “volcanoes were erupting, yes earthquakes were occurring” then these and other natural disasters/forces would have caused death and suffering before the original sin also.
Are you also saying that there was no cave men ?
I agree with what you’ve said about the evolution of the earth/universe, but I’m a bit confused, do you believe in theistic evolution or do you believe that God created Homo sapiens in an instant ?The evolution of this earth took billions of years. This evolution must involve earthquakes, volcanoes, asteroids, meteors and so on before man came into existence. When God created Adam it was at a certain time much after the dinosaurs and yes when Adam was created there were forces in the world that would have been destructive but God put Adam into a garden where there destructive forces were not available to Adam. It is certain when Adam had sinned the only changed that came from this sin was the change in man. Original sin brought physical death into the world for all humanity. Before this Original Sin there was no physical death. I do not believe in the cave men theory of what evolution is saying about the creation of man. In Genesis man was created flawless so that after he sinned you can say they lived in caves and so on not before. The forces of the world would impact humanity after Adam’s sin because man and woman were no longer part of that paradise God had specifically given to our first parents. This does not mean the destructive forces of the planet were not there. They were but not in the Garden which God had placed them but you can say outside this Garden. The creation of humanity while it has a short history (you can get a whole line of this family tree in Luke’s Gospel) from Adam to us is nothing compared to the longer history of this planet. God had taken billions of years to create this planet so that He would create finally the first humans. Before Adam and Eve there was the dinosaurs and other species of vegetation and animals that God had created and also God must use the forces of comets, meteors and asteroids to create the many types of chemicals that are now found on this Earth. The impacts of comets, asteroids and meteors are able to create the many types of minerals, rocks and other types of chemicals. Oil and gas for instance must be created through a very long period of time so that the young Earth with the combination of certain plants, bacteria and other sources such as intense heat and so on will create the oil and gas we have today. The Earth was very hot in its early stage of life even though the Sun was cooler. Why? It has to do with the many volcanoes at that time exploding on the Earth that had created this green house effect to warm up the planet. While this warming trend was in effect God created dinosaurs and other species to live in the type of environment the Earth had. All of this was millions of years before Adam and Eve would ever appeared.