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Could you try to help me? It is my opinion that each part of the following can be believed with a certitude of Faith and that God therefore wants us to pray publicly in such a way specifically because the saints in Heaven are already praying this way with those who see it as God’s will, not that we neccessarily understand all at first, but to believe and then to understand. This started out with my praying the Chaplet of Divine Mercy and
adding things that I see as what must be because if they are not, then some teaching of the Church is not true. When I ask Joseph and Mary, especially at Mass to pray for me or someone else, I ask them to pray all of this and more. Obviously, it is not in the least difficult for any of the Saints in Heaven to pray all of this and so much more because they have been filled with truly infinite graces so that they can see God as He is and be like Him with no partial knowledge (CCC314), . Do you see any error in this or any good?
(the one according to the application of Lk. 12:42 that the Church attributes to St. Joseph on His Feast day as Husband of Mary: The Faithful and prudent servant that the Master will put in charge of His servants (angels?) to distribute the food allowance (graces) at the proper time, and because of the teaching of the Church in the Litany of St. Joseph where we pray, 'God made him Lord of His household and Lord over all of His posessions)
,in the Name of Jesus have mercy on us and all creation because Joseph and Mary pray the Name “Jesus” in Heaven for everyone as they witness the Wedding Feast of the Lamb and they apply the infinite graces of each moment of Our Lord’s life and passion towards each and every moment of time and space for each and every sinner so that God’s Will to reconcile all things to Himself, making all things new, will be accomplished by
His Blood, including the Blood of His circumcision offered up by Joseph and Mary, inseparably from His Eternal Honoring of St. Joseph as True Head of the Family and Mary the Mother of God and the One God eternally gives enmity with the Devil, and as
His Helpmate (Who would never do anything without the consent and request of Her Lord, The head of the Family, St. Joseph), have mercy on us and all creation because it is your eternal will to call all to repentance and to your perfect peace that you had on the cross, even those who will be in your infinite, universal kingdom but be deprived of your beatific vision for ever and ever and ever because they are in hell forever and ever and
ever. In the Name of Jesus, Amen.
Some might have the understanding that the Church teaches that the devils in hell will never repent, based on CCC 392 and 393, and to that understanding I respond in advance: If they do not repent, then how is God’s kingdom, after time ends, infinite and universal? There are some who would then be outside of the Kingdom of peace, Love, Joy, Justice and Holiness. How could this be? I ask you to consider the phrases “for the angels”, and “for men” in CCC 393 in as oposed to the phrase “to them” and refer to Ezekiel 36: 22-37 where God will give HIS Law TO SOME, but not for their sake, but for the sake of His Holy name. Please consider that God gives free will eternally and can
not take it away. Therefore the devils still have free will, the ability to choose n the present tense. But they have rejected God’s grace and therefore can not, ON THEIR OWN, REPENT OR WiLL TO CHANGE BECAUSE ANYONE WITH FREEWILL MUST
HAVE GOD’S GRACE TO WILL THAT WHICH IS GOOD, to change. Therefore, for “them”, by themselves it is impossible to repent, in the same way for us, “by ourselves” it is impossible to be good. But if Mary, mankind’s solutary boast were to pray for them, with the consent of St. Joseph, and ask that the truly infinite graces of Our Lord’s passion be applied to them, and since “conversion is first of all a work of the grace of God who
makes our hearts return to Him”, CCC1432, without violating our freewill and because of CCC 2637 where the Church teaches " Indeed, in the work of salvation, Christ sets Creation free from sin and death to consecrate it anew, and make it return to the Father,
for His Glory", again without violating freewill. How canthis teaching be true if part of creation does not return to the Father? Does the Church then teach error? If it is God’s will
for all to come to repentence, then it must happen. It will just mean that those in hell will sufferfor ever and ever and ever the way Christ did in holiness, once for all.
Please try and help me see any errors in this. please feel free to call me: [Edited by Moderator]
Is it humility to deny it is possible that the devil has managed to mislead many wellmeaning catholics into accepting implicitly that God’s infinite , universal Kingdom is not infinite by halftruths and getting to think that God can not make those sentenced to hell for ever and ever to be holy so that they will be conformed to Christ in His peace on the cross?
adding things that I see as what must be because if they are not, then some teaching of the Church is not true. When I ask Joseph and Mary, especially at Mass to pray for me or someone else, I ask them to pray all of this and more. Obviously, it is not in the least difficult for any of the Saints in Heaven to pray all of this and so much more because they have been filled with truly infinite graces so that they can see God as He is and be like Him with no partial knowledge (CCC314), . Do you see any error in this or any good?
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Dear God, only because of your sorrowful passion that you offer to yourself eternally and truly through the prayers of Joseph and Mary in the authority you eternally give them as one, with St. Joseph as the true head of the family and the Lord over all of God's posessions,,in the Name of Jesus have mercy on us and all creation because Joseph and Mary pray the Name “Jesus” in Heaven for everyone as they witness the Wedding Feast of the Lamb and they apply the infinite graces of each moment of Our Lord’s life and passion towards each and every moment of time and space for each and every sinner so that God’s Will to reconcile all things to Himself, making all things new, will be accomplished by
His Blood, including the Blood of His circumcision offered up by Joseph and Mary, inseparably from His Eternal Honoring of St. Joseph as True Head of the Family and Mary the Mother of God and the One God eternally gives enmity with the Devil, and as
His Helpmate (Who would never do anything without the consent and request of Her Lord, The head of the Family, St. Joseph), have mercy on us and all creation because it is your eternal will to call all to repentance and to your perfect peace that you had on the cross, even those who will be in your infinite, universal kingdom but be deprived of your beatific vision for ever and ever and ever because they are in hell forever and ever and
ever. In the Name of Jesus, Amen.
Some might have the understanding that the Church teaches that the devils in hell will never repent, based on CCC 392 and 393, and to that understanding I respond in advance: If they do not repent, then how is God’s kingdom, after time ends, infinite and universal? There are some who would then be outside of the Kingdom of peace, Love, Joy, Justice and Holiness. How could this be? I ask you to consider the phrases “for the angels”, and “for men” in CCC 393 in as oposed to the phrase “to them” and refer to Ezekiel 36: 22-37 where God will give HIS Law TO SOME, but not for their sake, but for the sake of His Holy name. Please consider that God gives free will eternally and can
not take it away. Therefore the devils still have free will, the ability to choose n the present tense. But they have rejected God’s grace and therefore can not, ON THEIR OWN, REPENT OR WiLL TO CHANGE BECAUSE ANYONE WITH FREEWILL MUST
HAVE GOD’S GRACE TO WILL THAT WHICH IS GOOD, to change. Therefore, for “them”, by themselves it is impossible to repent, in the same way for us, “by ourselves” it is impossible to be good. But if Mary, mankind’s solutary boast were to pray for them, with the consent of St. Joseph, and ask that the truly infinite graces of Our Lord’s passion be applied to them, and since “conversion is first of all a work of the grace of God who
makes our hearts return to Him”, CCC1432, without violating our freewill and because of CCC 2637 where the Church teaches " Indeed, in the work of salvation, Christ sets Creation free from sin and death to consecrate it anew, and make it return to the Father,
for His Glory", again without violating freewill. How canthis teaching be true if part of creation does not return to the Father? Does the Church then teach error? If it is God’s will
for all to come to repentence, then it must happen. It will just mean that those in hell will sufferfor ever and ever and ever the way Christ did in holiness, once for all.
Please try and help me see any errors in this. please feel free to call me: [Edited by Moderator]
Is it humility to deny it is possible that the devil has managed to mislead many wellmeaning catholics into accepting implicitly that God’s infinite , universal Kingdom is not infinite by halftruths and getting to think that God can not make those sentenced to hell for ever and ever to be holy so that they will be conformed to Christ in His peace on the cross?