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No way to know really. And that’s all there is to it.
I very much agree with this. Just as we pass on the foundation of other critical things in life.I did find my way to the Catholic Church, but, dang, it was a rocky road. If my parents had exposed me to religion at all, it would have been much easier.
Parents, please raise your children in your faith. Even if means swallowing your pride and going to a church on Sunday that you haven’t darkened the door of for many years. Children need to know this personal side of you and they need to learn about God. If you don’t believe, but your spouse does, let your spouse share his or her faith. To ignore the nurturing of your child’s soul is wrong.
I pray for my brothers, who are too full of pride to give God a chance.
You story shows how all things are redeemed in Christ. Thank you for sharing.For those who haven’t seen this before, this is just how rocky it was for me…
chnetwork.org/2014/07/taking-courage-god-drew-light-church-conversion-story-alicia-smith/
Love your children enough to share them with God.
Thank you. Blessings.Amen! Well stated!
Hi Hockeygurl . A sometimes judgemental and legalistic christian here. Be careful… Years ago there was an “I found it campaign”, 1977 I think. The goal was to reach entire city populations asking if folks had found Christ. It is true like the parable of the guy finding treasure on land and buying the land. He "found’ it. But now for the “rest of the story”. The real miracle is that the guy was mysteriously, non-coincidentally , led by the Father to the treasure. It may seem like we found it , but really He found us. He lured, captured and broke us to a willing submission like a wild stallion. So did the stallion find a new loving owner ? Could he have found the owner on his own ? But for sure , from a certain perspective, hopefully all here have “found” the loving Savior. “*Seek and ye shall find”, *and “*no one goes to the Son unless drawn by the Father”.I am going to come toward this question as a Christian vs. a denomination.
I think If I had been born clueless about Christ, and if my family never had taught me about god…
I would have heard the call, listened to my heart and heard “something” calling me towards something greater… and I truly believe I would have found it.
Would you agree though that a personal encounter with Christ can only come in connection with the Church? Because the Church is “the pillar and foundation of all truth” (1 Timothy 3:15).I think your question is, is our faith genuine, and not prejudiced by our upbringing and the following of tradition? It is true that religiosity can hamper a true encounter with the living Christ. Jesus main obstacle was not just worldly pagan disbelief but religiosity from the one true faith of the time (Judaism). He said it was easier for the drunkards and prostitutes to enter the gates of heaven than the faithful “church goers”, who were made twice the sinners by traditions. Wherever one finds himself, in or out of “church”, any church, Christ seeks a personal encounter with us. This to regenerate, to make born of the spirit that which was dead (in sin or born only of tradition- both given to you by "others’’). Having said that , no one goes to the Father except thru the Son and no one that unless drawn by the Father, for no man seeks God on his own.
Yes, as salvation was/is of the Jews for the OT, the “church” is the dispensational vehicle for NT. I use church loosely as in “the called out ones”. For God so chose that by the foolishness of preaching men should be saved. Preachers are usually “called out ones”Would you agree though that a personal encounter with Christ can only come in connection with the Church? Because the Church is “the pillar and foundation of all truth” (1 Timothy 3:15).
Obviously as a Catholic I have a different understanding than you do.I use church loosely as in “the called out ones”.
Very good question, schaeffer. I was raised Presbyterian until my late teenage years, and then became an evangelical after watching a Billy Graham crusade and accepting Jesus as my Lord and Savior, which began my current faith journey. Now I am seriously considering Catholicism as an enhancement to my spiritual life after decades in the AOG faith tradition.I understand there are many converts here, who clearly found their way to their present faith. But for those who remain in the faith they were raised in, do you feel you would have found your way to it one way or another?
When you think of other life opportunities, encounters with people of your faith, do you feel like you would have been drawn to it? Or had the impetus or information to come to it had you already been in another faith.
This is obviously a speculative question, but I thought it might be fun to discuss.