Illegitimate Children Destined to Hell?

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I’ve heard from a few people that illegitimate children and unwanted children are destined to hell. I know it’s not what the Church teaches. I’m just wondering where this could have come from, since the people I heard it from didn’t know each other. Does anyone have any (name removed by moderator)ut on this? Thanks.
 
One baby I know for sure was. But that wasn’t in their logic at all. Nor was free will. It was a ‘because you’re illegitimate/unwanted, no matter what you do, you can never go to heaven’.
 
One baby I know for sure was. But that wasn’t in their logic at all. Nor was free will. It was a ‘because you’re illegitimate/unwanted, no matter what you do, you can never go to heaven’.
That has nothing to do with any Christian doctrine ever known.
 
Thanks for the clarification. I’ll just chalk those people up as ‘grossly misled’.
 
I googled this question and seems to show up a lot on evangelical type sites (the person answering the question always says its not true). I needed to use “B-word” for the word in question, since the forum didn’t seem to like the whole word.

This seems to be arising from Deut 23:2 (“No b-word shall enter the assembly of the Lord; even to the tenth generation none of his descendants shall enter the assembly of the Lord.”). It seems they are ascribing a more spiritual meaning to something meant more literally. Here’s the Haydock commentary explaining the meaning of the word translated as “b-word”:
Mamzer, &c. The author of the Vulgate adds the explication of mamzer, which only occurs again, Zacharias ix. 6. It may in both places denote a stranger, or one of a different religion from the Jews, as Jephte was the son of a prostitute, (Judges xi. 1,) and yet became a judge of Israel. But strangers, as long as they professed a false religion, could not be entitled to the privilege of Jewish citizens; and even after they had relinquished their false worship, they were bound to wait ten whole generations, or a long time, before they could fill the posts of honour and command. (Calmet) — This, however, seems to be contrary to the disposition made in favour of the Idumeans and Egyptians, who were admitted in the third generation. A mamzer may, therefore, be (Haydock) a b-word of a different nation from the Jews, (Menochius) which was not the case of Jephte. (Haydock) — The Rabbins specify three sorts of mamzers: 1. those born of parents who, by the law, are forbidden to marry, being to near akin; 2. those who are the fruit of adultery, or some criminal commerce, which is punished with death; and 3. those whose birth subjects the parents to be cut off or retrenched from the people. (Selden, Jur. v. 16.) — the Septuagint, &c., exclude the children “of a harlot,” which is the sense of mamzer in the canon law. The Christian Church rejects such from holy orders, and the Athenians would not suffer b-words to offer sacrifice in the city, but only in the cynosarge, dedicated to Hercules, whose birth any doubts might be entertained. (Calmet) — It is observable, that such often imitate the wicked conduct of their parents; in which case, they are unfit for the magistracy; and though they may lead a very exemplary life, the law is intended to discourage such practices in parents, which may entail dishonour and loss upon their children; that, if they be not sufficiently restrained by their own personal disgrace, they may at least by the love for their innocent offspring. (Haydock) — Tenth. In the 11th generation, when the stain was obliterated, the descendant might become a magistrate. (Menochius) — Some understand that they were excluded for ever, as when the judges of the Areopagus ordered a man to appear again before them in 100 years’ time, they meant that his cause was entirely rejected. (Vatable; Casaub. in Atheneus vi.)
 
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I’ve heard from a few people that illegitimate children and unwanted children are destined to hell
I know it’s not what the church teaches, thank God, and I’ve always found it incredibly disturbing. Why punish a child for the sins of their parents?
 
That depends, are they baptized?
The Church does not teach that unbaptised infants are destined to Hell.

CCC 1261 As regards children who have died without Baptism , the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus’ tenderness toward children which caused him to say: “Let the children come to me, do not hinder them,” allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church’s call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism.
 
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I’ve heard from a few people
Please identify these people you’ve “heard” this from.
illegitimate children and unwanted children are destined to hell
Please think about this logically. Does this make ANY sense at all?
I know it’s not what the Church teaches.
Well there you go.
I’m just wondering where this could have come from
Do you really expect random people to ID where such a whack a doodle idea proposed by mysterious people you “heard” comes from?? Knowing literally nothing about what you heard, where, or from whom?
Does anyone have any (name removed by moderator)ut on this?
Nope.
 
I was wondering if this was something that was taught, perhaps pre-Vatican II. . . .
 
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I’ve heard from a few people that illegitimate children and unwanted children are destined to hell. I know it’s not what the Church teaches. I’m just wondering where this could have come from, since the people I heard it from didn’t know each other. Does anyone have any (name removed by moderator)ut on this? Thanks.
The exact origin of this claim doesn’t matter. Any club will do to beat the Church.
 
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Sometimes, it helps to know if a person is talking about a family member, someone from a different religion, or another Catholic. No need to get defensive.
 
Ok. I wasn’t planning on sharing all of this but since it’s become an issue. They were Catholic. My grandma and aunts and someone I ran into later in life. Is that enough or do I need to share more?
 
Sorry. It felt like an attack. Had they been more clear as to why they needed that information, I would have answered differently. But they chose not to do that, so i took it like I took it. Now that everyone knows, though…can we move on with the subject? (no, that is not sarcasm nor rude…) Thank you.
 
Maybe so, but it sure causes a lot of scars on a kid who has to hear it every day. I was in my 30s when I learned that it is possible that Jesus just might love me, too and maybe (MAYBE) there’s a place for me in heaven. Thank you for the clarification.
 
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