I'm gay and I'm falling for this girl

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I have a friend who was deep into the homosexual lifestyle. He is now happily married and has 2 beautiful children. His wife used to be a lesbian also. Through Christ they were able to come out of homosexuality and live normal lives. They have started a ministry called the Love and Truth network. Their website is: www.loveandtruthnetwork.com

Sure they still struggle with same-sex attraction issues occasionally, but I don’t know any married person that isn’t tempted by attractive people at one time or another.

I do agree with others that the girl has a right to know about your struggles. Please pray often to discern what God wants you to do.

Peace,
John Marie Philomena
 
Let’s deal with these issues one-by-one.

First, if by “For 4-5 years, I have been leading a single gay man life,” you don’t mean you’ve been sexually active outside of marriage, what on earth do you mean? It sounds as if you’ve been leading the life of a bachelor who doesn’t date women, or perhaps one who only socializes with gay men. Do you mean that you’ve only been looking to ogle other men? Do you mean that you have engaged in homosexual actions, but none that have been genital in nature? I honestly don’t know what you mean. 🤷

Second, I would strongly advise you that if the love of your life is what you’d call “not pretty,” that you leave her looks out of her description. Certainly don’t put it first. That betrays a shallowness that does not become you. (Not unusual in someone brought up in a looks-are-everything culture, but just don’t do that.)

Third, let’s get rid of this “the same-sex attraction is still there in my body.” I’m not looking for a quarrel about whether that is literally true. I don’t have any trouble accepting that a compulsion to do something could be organic. Still, if someone were to go out and get drunk once and feel the “click” and then stayed away from alcohol thereafter because he feared he could never have a controlled relationship with alcohol, but he hung around in bars, including in his social circle people who couldn’t control their drinking, I’m not sure he’d be considered an alcoholic. I think he’d be considered someone at risk of becoming alcoholic, and not handling it very prudently. IOW, if you are tempted to homosexual acts and want to keep with the teaching of the Church, the very last thing you ought to be doing is hanging around with people who find those acts right and necessary to their happiness. (What else you could mean by “living” the life of a gay man, I do not know.)

Likewise, it has already been noted that a great many people are tempted away from chastity, the heterosexual no less than the homosexual. Heterosexual men are afraid to make a commitment to a woman for just the reasons you describe. Again, I don’t doubt that some men have stronger physical urges than others, but that does not mean you are a body let loose on the world with free will just along for the ride. The free will is a man riding an elephant. Mastery is not possible by brute force, but compliance of body to will certainly is possible for those who are wise, patient, and firm. The man who does not have charge of his own sexual faculty, or who looses charge “only once in awhile,” is most surely a man riding a huge and unpredictable beast of some kind! Yet you seem someone who has always had control of the urges in your body. I would not worry that you will be overwhelmed by compulsion. You need to switch your noodle if you don’t want to be seduced by your desires, but you have self-mastery enough to stay chaste for a lifetime, if you’re willing to use it.

Should you tell her? Yes, you should. That doesn’t mean you ought to self-identify as homosexual (because you also have attractions for women) but that you absolutely should tell her if you’ve had attractions for men more often than for women. Still, if you have really kept chaste for your entire life, that is a point in your favor. Wow, is that a point in your favor. You have kept yourself pure in order to please God, not because some other person would be jealous if you did. In other words, this wasn’t “you stay faithful to me, and I’ll stay faithful to you.” You have developed the real gift of continence, and that is what is needed.

BTW, if by “not pretty”, you mean that she arouses you *far less *than most other people in the general population, to the point that she really doesn’t set you on fire at all, think hard about that. A married man owes a marital debt, and the norm is that he will give his wife what she ought to have from him in great joy. It is a debt, but it is like the debt to love and honor your parents. It ought to be fulfilled naturally and willingly, happily; excepting the days when you are just being self-centered or are physically too tired or sick or something of that nature, it ought not be a burden. That doesn’t mean it never is, but if it does not seem something that would bring you great joy, you might find yourself hurting her feelings in a very deep way. Think about that. Pray about that. Get some advice about that.
 
Hi friends,

I think I am in a dilemma now and please don’t laugh at me. 😊😊😊
I always declare myself as a gay man. I’m early 23 now. I follow the Church’s teaching so I have never done any homosexual acts. I used to be in a pure relationship with another boy during my late teenage year. But we broke up in the end as he “desired” more and I just could not. For 4-5 years, I have been leading a single gay man life.
Sometimes I think I do have feeling for girls. I like to stare at certain body parts and check out some of the girls on the street. But the feeling was not that strong I think until I met this girl in my company. We’ve known each other for a year. And we kinda “like” each other. She is not like any girls that I have met. She’s not pretty but so caring, sweet and nice. Sometimes we also joke about marriage. Sometimes I think of moving on with her. But the same-sex attraction is still there in my body. And I am scared that one day I will be weak and betray her. She does not know about this issue, and I feel that I should tell her in the near future. However, I am worried that she cannot accept this. I pray to God for His light but at the same times, I would like to take advice from my friends in this form.
Thank you and God bless.👍👍👍
You may be bisexual, which does not mean there is necessarily an equal sexual attraction to both men and women. Some bisexuals are predominantly straight while others are predominantly gay. Or you may just have a sexual (and emotional) attraction toward this particular woman because of her caring and sweet personality. Either way, I think you should pursue the relationship without worrying too much about someday being attracted to a man. If you really love this woman, and are not only sexually attracted toward her, the relationship can work. With regard to your past gay relationship(s) and your present same-sex attraction, you might want to wait a little before telling her; however I think you MUST tell her if the relationship gets serious: you owe that to her and your own future happiness. In a serious relationship, and especially in a (good) marriage, there should be NO secrets, whether sexual, money, addictive behavior, whatever. If she is as kind and caring as you say, and if she loves you the way you love her, there is a good possibility she will understand and accept your same-sex attraction; and, who knows, maybe she has the same gay feelings as well.
 
I didn’t notice the part where you said she was “not pretty” in the OP. I don’t think that impression disqualifies you from pursuing this relationship, but – if you were to marry her – you would need to be attracted to her and you would need to recognize her beauty.
 
Hi friends,

I think I am in a dilemma now and please don’t laugh at me. 😊😊😊
I always declare myself as a gay man. I’m early 23 now. I follow the Church’s teaching so I have never done any homosexual acts. I used to be in a pure relationship with another boy during my late teenage year. But we broke up in the end as he “desired” more and I just could not. For 4-5 years, I have been leading a single gay man life.
Sometimes I think I do have feeling for girls. I like to stare at certain body parts and check out some of the girls on the street. But the feeling was not that strong I think until I met this girl in my company. We’ve known each other for a year. And we kinda “like” each other. She is not like any girls that I have met. She’s not pretty but so caring, sweet and nice. Sometimes we also joke about marriage. Sometimes I think of moving on with her. But the same-sex attraction is still there in my body. And I am scared that one day I will be weak and betray her. She does not know about this issue, and I feel that I should tell her in the near future. However, I am worried that she cannot accept this. I pray to God for His light but at the same times, I would like to take advice from my friends in this form.
Thank you and God bless.👍👍👍
Listen, don’t base your decisions on the sole basis that you might screw up. That’s no way to live.

You may want to tell her about your orientation, but from what you are posting, it sounds like you are more bisexual than gay. 🤷 So I think it’s fair game for you to tell her you are more bisexual. If you tell her you are gay, she could be just disappointed in the sense that she won’t be able to have a relationship with you, but I’m not quite convinced that “gay” describes you best.

You seem fine in my book to go out with her, and don’t let “what if’s” stop you 👍
 
I think you should continue with the relationship with the girl. If you become more serious, you do need to tell her about your SSA, particularly if you’ve identified yourself as gay to other people in your life. She’s going to hear it from someone, so it should probably be you.
 
Others besides me seem to have noted the “not pretty” comment. I don’t want it overdone either though. First impressions about looks aren’t necessarily the end product. The most wrenchingly crushing heartbreak of MY life came at the hands of a woman I initially winced at being forced to work closely with. Go figure. In my case, once I got to know her I became smitten with her and found her irresistible both physically and personally. But if you discover a woman to be genuinely beautiful and STILL consider her “not pretty” it MIGHT be a warning bell.

Good luck!
 
Others besides me seem to have noted the “not pretty” comment. I don’t want it overdone either though. First impressions about looks aren’t necessarily the end product. The most wrenchingly crushing heartbreak of MY life came at the hands of a woman I initially winced at being forced to work closely with. Go figure. In my case, once I got to know her I became smitten with her and found her irresistible both physically and personally. But if you discover a woman to be genuinely beautiful and STILL consider her “not pretty” it MIGHT be a warning bell.

Good luck!
At least decide that it is better to describe your friends by their good points or neutral-but-remarkable features than by the ways in which they fall short of your expectations. If a few caveats need to be issued, save those for last, and deliver them softly. “Not pretty” could be replaced by “she doesn’t have the looks to be a model or anything, but she takes the trouble to make herself look nice” or “she doesn’t get wound up about clothes or makeup, but she’s so sweet that even someone shallow like me forgets that”…the way you’d describe her if you were forced to talk about her looks honestly, but she was standing there and you didn’t want her to either hit you or run from the room with her feelings hurt.

But yes: If the truth is, “personally, I light up around her, but sexually, she doesn’t do much for me” rather than “considering that her looks aren’t anything for a magazine, I’m amazed at how she attracts me”, that is a warning bell with regards to marriage. Your bride does not have to be someone you’d put on a magazine cover, but she ought to be someone you want to be sexually intimate with. She doesn’t have to be the only one in the world who attracts you, but she ought to be on your list of desirables. She deserves that much!

If you identify someone as very good spouse material but not that physically attractive, though, that isn’t a reason to reject a courtship outright. People of quality do have this way of growing on others, and eliciting affections far deeper than looks can bring around! (And better yet, that kind of attractiveness does not diminish with age.)

If thou canst love a fellow of this temper, Kate, whose face is not worth sunburning, that never looks in his glass for love of anything he sees there, let thine eye be thy cook. I speak to thee a plain soldier. If thou canst love me for this, take me; if not, to say to thee that I shall die is true- but for thy love, by the Lord, no; yet I love thee too. And while thou liv’st, dear Kate, take a fellow of plain and uncoined constancy; for he perforce must do thee right, because he hath not the gift to woo in other places; for these fellows of infinite tongue, that can rhyme themselves into ladies’ favours, they do always reason themselves out again. What! a speaker is but a prater: a rhyme is but a ballad. A good leg will fall; a straight back will stoop; a black beard will turn white; a curl’d pate will grow bald; a fair face will wither; a full eye will wax hollow. But a good heart, Kate, is the sun and the moon; or, rather, the sun, and not the moon- for it shines bright and never changes, but keeps his course truly.
Henry V, Act 5, Scene 2
 
Henry V, huh? How about Jimmy Soul?

If You Wanna Be Happy
Jimmy Soul

If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.

The verses get worse! Or better if you take it as merely funny…
 
Henry V, huh? How about Jimmy Soul?

If You Wanna Be Happy
Jimmy Soul

If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.

The verses get worse! Or better if you take it as merely funny…
I hope people take it as merely funny, because anybody who thinks there is necessarily an inverse relationship between looks and cooking skills could be in for a rude awakening. (And there isn’t any real connection between looks and decency, either, for that matter.)

The OP has met a sweet person, though, so he’s good.
 
Hi friends,

I think I am in a dilemma now and please don’t laugh at me. 😊😊😊
I always declare myself as a gay man. I’m early 23 now. I follow the Church’s teaching so I have never done any homosexual acts. I used to be in a pure relationship with another boy during my late teenage year. But we broke up in the end as he “desired” more and I just could not. For 4-5 years, I have been leading a single gay man life.
Sometimes I think I do have feeling for girls. I like to stare at certain body parts and check out some of the girls on the street. But the feeling was not that strong I think until I met this girl in my company. We’ve known each other for a year. And we kinda “like” each other. She is not like any girls that I have met. She’s not pretty but so caring, sweet and nice. Sometimes we also joke about marriage. Sometimes I think of moving on with her. But the same-sex attraction is still there in my body. And I am scared that one day I will be weak and betray her. She does not know about this issue, and I feel that I should tell her in the near future. However, I am worried that she cannot accept this. I pray to God for His light but at the same times, I would like to take advice from my friends in this form.
Thank you and God bless.👍👍👍
Your previous relationship sounds like you confusing bromance for romantic lover. If you were gay then women’s primary and secondary sexual characteristics wouldn’t be of any real interest to you.
 
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