In an emergency, can you baptize with saliva?

  • Thread starter Thread starter SHoJjhmou
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
S

SHoJjhmou

Guest
Would the saliva count as water? I’ve heard some people say yes it would, but there also are people that have spoken on the matter say that it would not count.

Wouldn’t want to try to perform a sacrament with invalid matter, that might (haven’t checked yet) be a sacrilege!
 
I am no expert however I would doubt that even a St. Bernard would produce enough saliva to baptise. You need to continually pour the water whilst saying the sacramental words. However, God has His way over all difficulties.I leave it to the Jesuits.
 
I am no expert however I would doubt that even a St. Bernard would produce enough saliva to baptise. You need to continually pour the water whilst saying the sacramental words. However, God has His way over all difficulties.I leave it to the Jesuits.
Really? I’ve never heard of that before. Hmm…
 
Would the saliva count as water? I’ve heard some people say yes it would, but there also are people that have spoken on the matter say that it would not count.

Wouldn’t want to try to perform a sacrament with invalid matter, that might (haven’t checked yet) be a sacrilege!
Absolutely not! Only clean water will do. That’s why I always carry a small bottle of Holy Water with me all the time. I have had to do an emergency Baptism once. A tiny baby that had been dropped on its head by a young sibling. God Bless, Memaw
 
Never heard of it being done. Just yesterday I was reading how one of the North American Martyrs baptized a Huron convert with the morning dew, because that was all that was available before they were martyred.
 
Hey, Jesus used spit to cure the blind man …with faith anything is possible! 😉
 
Um, Baptism of water requires…water…not saliva…

But there is still baptism of desire and baptism of blood. 🙂
 
Never heard of it being done. Just yesterday I was reading how one of the North American Martyrs baptized a Huron convert with the morning dew, because that was all that was available before they were martyred.
Morning dew is clean water. God Bless, Memaw
 
Hey, Jesus used spit to cure the blind man …with faith anything is possible! 😉
Let’s be careful we don’t try to change the Teachings of the Church ourselves, we’re NOT Jesus. HE said to Baptize with WATER, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. That’s what the Church teaches. God Bless, Memaw
 
The Church specifies . . . without getting too specific . . . that the liquid used must be “true” water. The older code of canon law used to include “natural,” as well, which is a dogmatic requirement (see Trent, Sess. VII), but that doesn’t get us much closer to concrete differentiations of liquids, which in doubtful cases remains a judgment call. But the question to ask is: would this ordinarily be thought of as water? Saliva doesn’t fit the bill. The old Catholic Encyclopedia has a good initial taxonomy to consult:

The remote matter of baptism, then, is water, and this taken in its usual meaning. Theologians tell us consequently that what men would ordinarily declare water is valid baptismal material, whether it be water of the sea, or fountain, or well, or marsh; whether it be clear or turbid; fresh or salty; hot or cold; colored or uncolored. Water derived from melted ice, snow, or hail is also valid. If, however, ice, snow, or hail be not melted, they do not come under the designation water. Dew, sulfur or mineral water, and that which is derived from steam are also valid matter for this sacrament. As to a mixture of water and some other material, it is held as proper matter, provided the water certainly predominates and the mixture would still be called water. Invalid matter is every liquid that is not usually designated true water. Such are oil, saliva, wine, tears, milk, sweat, beer, soup, the juice of fruits, and any mixture containing water which men would no longer call water. When it is doubtful whether a liquid could really be called water, it is not permissible to use it for baptism except in case of absolute necessity when no certainly valid matter can be obtained.
 
Let’s be careful we don’t try to change the Teachings of the Church ourselves, we’re NOT Jesus. HE said to Baptize with WATER, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. That’s what the Church teaches. God Bless, Memaw
I did put a wink face at the end. 😉

In case of death, an adult wouldn’t have to be baptized…just accept Jesus…like the thief on the cross.
A baby is a different matter.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top