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If purgatory is a place where we are supposed to be purified and get rid of our earthly habits, then why do we get indulgences to spend less time there?
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From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
1030 All who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.
1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:607
As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.608
1032 This teaching is also based on the practice of prayer for the dead, already mentioned in Sacred Scripture: "Therefore [Judas Maccabeus] made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin.“609 From the beginning the Church has honored the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God.610 The Church also commends almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead: Let us help and commemorate them. If Job’s sons were purified by their father’s sacrifice, why would we doubt that our offerings for the dead bring them some consolation? Let us not hesitate to help those who have died and to offer our prayers for them.611”
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Those offering include 'indulgences
X. INDULGENCES
1471 …
What is an indulgence?
"An indulgence is a remission before God of the temporal punishment due to sins whose guilt has already been forgiven, which the faithful Christian who is duly disposed gains under certain prescribed conditions through the action of the Church which, as the minister of redemption, dispenses and applies with authority the treasury of the satisfactions of Christ and the saints."81
"An indulgence is partial or plenary according as it removes either part or all of the temporal punishment due to sin."82 The faithful can gain indulgences for themselves or apply them to the dead.83 "
vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c2a4.htm
1030 All who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.
1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:607
As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.608
1032 This teaching is also based on the practice of prayer for the dead, already mentioned in Sacred Scripture: "Therefore [Judas Maccabeus] made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin.“609 From the beginning the Church has honored the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God.610 The Church also commends almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead: Let us help and commemorate them. If Job’s sons were purified by their father’s sacrifice, why would we doubt that our offerings for the dead bring them some consolation? Let us not hesitate to help those who have died and to offer our prayers for them.611”
%between%
Those offering include 'indulgences
X. INDULGENCES
1471 …
What is an indulgence?
"An indulgence is a remission before God of the temporal punishment due to sins whose guilt has already been forgiven, which the faithful Christian who is duly disposed gains under certain prescribed conditions through the action of the Church which, as the minister of redemption, dispenses and applies with authority the treasury of the satisfactions of Christ and the saints."81
"An indulgence is partial or plenary according as it removes either part or all of the temporal punishment due to sin."82 The faithful can gain indulgences for themselves or apply them to the dead.83 "
vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c2a4.htm
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Indeed, a love we ourselves can even, in turn, come to emulate by His grace.
Like a lover who finds it painful to be separated from their partner , so much more does God wish to embrace those in Purgatory who are longing for Him.
Agreeing with the sentiment in the previous post, I think should we ever end up in Purgatory , it would become (if you pardon the expression) painfully obvious why we would wish to have the benefit of indulgences .
Moreover, the gaining of indulgences and the offering of them on behalf of the holy souls in Purgatory is a charitable act - the selflessness of which is highly commendable, finding its completion in the Communion of Saints, and enabling us to share in Christ’s own redemptive power.
Although, as Father John Hardon, S.J. writes , the pains of the souls in Purgatory are not “incompatible with great peace and joy, since the poor souls deeply love God and are sure they will reach heaven” , the suffering the holy souls endure is extremely real (something we might correctly call pure suffering, in the sense that there are no distractions and the object is clear) . According to the Diary of St. Faustina , their greatest suffering is their longing for God.
I found this paper to be helpful in contemplating Purgatory , in that it draws from many different sources within Church tradition.
Another inspirational passage (also from the Diary of St. Faustina 1226] ) contains our Blessed Lord’s ( purported, if you prefer) words :
“Today bring to Me the souls who are in the prison of Purgatory, and immerse them in the abyss of My mercy. Let the torrents of My Blood cool down their scorching flames. All these souls are greatly loved by Me. They are making retribution to My justice. It is in your power to bring them relief. Draw all the indulgences from the treasury of My Church and offer them on their behalf. Oh, if you only knew the torments they suffer, you would continually offer for them the alms of the spirit and pay off their debt to My justice.”
One of the benefits of gaining indulgences for the holy souls is that we gain new intercessors in Heaven who will be forever grateful to us and who intercede for us.
Like a lover who finds it painful to be separated from their partner , so much more does God wish to embrace those in Purgatory who are longing for Him.
Our earthly habits are former things, because our earthly existence is a former thing for souls in the state of Purgatory - although there can still be some relationship (according to who is speculating) . Purgatory is where we atone for sins committed, not gradually somehow stop sinning.If purgatory is a place where we are supposed to be purified and get rid of our earthly habits, then why do we get indulgences to spend less time there?
Agreeing with the sentiment in the previous post, I think should we ever end up in Purgatory , it would become (if you pardon the expression) painfully obvious why we would wish to have the benefit of indulgences .
Moreover, the gaining of indulgences and the offering of them on behalf of the holy souls in Purgatory is a charitable act - the selflessness of which is highly commendable, finding its completion in the Communion of Saints, and enabling us to share in Christ’s own redemptive power.
Although, as Father John Hardon, S.J. writes , the pains of the souls in Purgatory are not “incompatible with great peace and joy, since the poor souls deeply love God and are sure they will reach heaven” , the suffering the holy souls endure is extremely real (something we might correctly call pure suffering, in the sense that there are no distractions and the object is clear) . According to the Diary of St. Faustina , their greatest suffering is their longing for God.
I found this paper to be helpful in contemplating Purgatory , in that it draws from many different sources within Church tradition.
Another inspirational passage (also from the Diary of St. Faustina 1226] ) contains our Blessed Lord’s ( purported, if you prefer) words :
“Today bring to Me the souls who are in the prison of Purgatory, and immerse them in the abyss of My mercy. Let the torrents of My Blood cool down their scorching flames. All these souls are greatly loved by Me. They are making retribution to My justice. It is in your power to bring them relief. Draw all the indulgences from the treasury of My Church and offer them on their behalf. Oh, if you only knew the torments they suffer, you would continually offer for them the alms of the spirit and pay off their debt to My justice.”
One of the benefits of gaining indulgences for the holy souls is that we gain new intercessors in Heaven who will be forever grateful to us and who intercede for us.
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