Indulgences

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Can someone provide me biblical proof of this doctrine. Thanks.
 
It’s called “The Keys of the Kingdom” granted to the Pope and the Church see Matthew 16 and 18.
 
This doctrine depends on a bunch of other doctrines. If one were to prove indulgences, ultimately, you’d have to be given proof to the others.

Example: If someone proves where the pope can grant an indulgence. It assumes that a pope can grant stuff in the first place. If you don’t believe that there is such a thing as a pope, then proving the first thing won’t matter.

This is not the only dependent doctrine. There are others.

Martin
 
Indulgences are the theological equivilent of wealthy northerners paying poor people to serve in their stead during the civil war.

Indulgences are the “graces” built up by other people that others can use if they provide the church with the appropriate compensation.

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Indulgences are the theological equivilent of wealthy northerners paying poor people to serve in their stead during the civil war.

Indulgences are the “graces” built up by other people that others can use if they provide the church with the appropriate compensation.

Peace
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Not sure what you mean by “compensation”, as indulgences have nothing to do with money. Indulgences are acts of penance or faith that can be done to remediate the temporal effects of sin. These acts can be applied by the faithful to others, most specifically those souls in Purgatory.

This teaching relies on the fact that Christ gave His Church, through Peter, the keys to the kingdom, and the power to bind and loose. The Church therefore is the steward of heavenly graces, and may apportion them as she sees fit. The Church in her wisdom has stated that some of these graces may be obtained by performing temporal acts of devotion, such as saying certain prayers, making pilgrimages, and receiving the sacraments. These temporal acts make amends for other acts, and reduce or eliminate the temporal punishment due to sins.
 
Also, I suggest reading Akin’s “The Salvation Controversy” it covers all of the background necessary to understand the doctrine of indulgences. It is a little more complicated than a few proof-texts are going to give … it is, however, a beautiful doctrine of the Church and I wish more understood it and took part in the penitential acts associated with indulgences (which includes regularly reading scripture) …
 
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Not sure what you mean by “compensation”, as indulgences have nothing to do with money. Indulgences are acts of penance or faith that can be done to remediate the temporal effects of sin. These acts can be applied by the faithful to others, most specifically those souls in Purgatory.

This teaching relies on the fact that Christ gave His Church, through Peter, the keys to the kingdom, and the power to bind and loose. The Church therefore is the steward of heavenly graces, and may apportion them as she sees fit. The Church in her wisdom has stated that some of these graces may be obtained by performing temporal acts of devotion, such as saying certain prayers, making pilgrimages, and receiving the sacraments. These temporal acts make amends for other acts, and reduce or eliminate the temporal punishment due to sins.
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That is what I said, but the church doesn’t just hand them out without getting something in return and at one time they were sold.

Peace
 
The selling of indulgences for profit was forbidden by the Council of Lyons (several hundred years before Luther) and the Council of Trent. That priests sold indulgences for profit during the Middle Ages was AGAINST Church teaching, and therefore cannot be counted against the Catholic Church herself.

God bless,
Greg
 
As regards biblical proof, that is what the parable of the talents is all about - “to those who have, more will be given.” This axiom is the biblical basis for indulgences. An indulgence is a grace upon grace, a blessing upon blessing.

Understand that there are two views on indulgences in the Catholic Church. The one we are used to is the Western (or Latin) Church’s understanding - namely, that a work of sacrifice or love has value or “merit” in the eyes of God and is rewarded by an indulgence, apart from and IN ADDITION to the value of that work. This is a direct application of the parable of the talents. The Eastern Catholic understanding of indulgences is more “legal” - the value of an indulgence EQUALS the merit of your work.

God bless,
Greg
 
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