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I have 2 friends who are having an affair with one another. One is a Eucharistic Minister in the Episcopal faith married for 20+ yrs with 2 children and the other is a divorced mother of 3 not active in any faith. I am familiar with the wife of the one participant in this situation. These individuals have set up a bank account and are diverting $$ from their families to plan for their future. What is the proper way to deal with this situation? I have been praying about it for over a year and it is causing me much distress.
 
How do you have so much inside information…to the point of knowing about secret bank accounts?
 
I would spill the beans if I were you. They do not sound like very good people anyway so why worry whether they get mad at you or not. The point is that there is a family getting jipped right now and they don’t even know about it. The woman is counting on retiring with her husband, and he is planning on leaving her high and dry. I would think that you have a moral obligation to inform the party that is being hurt!
 
IMHO, you need to tell the hurt party what is going on? But before you do: 1. Ask yourself, if you spill the beans, are you really helping the hurt party ultimately. In other words, what is to be gained by this. Not for yourself, but for the hurt party. 2. Be sure of the facts, before you say anything. 3. When telling the wife, be sure you stick to the facts and not gossip.
 
If I was the spouse who was being cheated on, I would want to know.
 
Mary's Lamb:
If I was the spouse who was being cheated on, I would want to know.
Ditto. But remember that you are the messenger in this. Your friend may have trouble with this “why didn’t you tell her sooner” etc or she may even side with her husband, he may deny all, or maybe she suspects something already & will be embarassed that other people know. She may even be mad at you for telling her! Its too hard to tell from your post how much she or your friendship will be affected by you telling her.

I think your best move would be to confront her husband. Give him a chance to come clean with his wife. You know Jesus says if you have a problem with someone work it out with them, if they don’t respond then have others with you to confront the person, (can’t remember the exact phrase) admonish the sinner. Let him know that you will tell your friend what’s going on if he doesn’t.

If you think by confronting her husband your friend would be in danger then go right to her.

I know I’ve given you several different things to think about. Pray and ask God to give you discernment and a proper attitude to help your friends. I will pray for you and your friends.
 
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convertbackhome:
What is the proper way to deal with this situation?
If I were in your shoes, I would steer clear of it completely.
 
I know so much about the situation because I work with both of my friends. The female party has shared much information in spite of being told that I do not wish to have any knowledge of the situation. I have witnessed to her over a year on this situation and in the beginning she would confess that they both knew it was wrong. I had alluded to this situation with the male party and he had indicated a desire to end the relationship. As time has gone on, the situation has only intensified to a point where a joint bank account exists and they do not even act like themselves anymore. They both read the Da Vinci Code and spout the heresy. He sees no conflict between that and being a Eucharistic Minister and a part time professor at a local Christian college. I continue to pray but wondered if that was all Christ would have me do.
 
Originally, the parties showed remorse but no longer. His wife comes to the office on occasion so we are familiar…but not intimate friends. My heart aches when I see her but I do nothing. I know that any action that I do must be in love…but, how can I be sure? Am I culpable if/when he leaves his family and they are vulnerable? His wife only works part time and they live in a very nice neighborhood…she would not likely be able to continue to be a full time mother.
 
i’m wondering if there’s a way for you to anonymously tell the betrayed spouses…is there any evidence you have? pictures, emails, letters, bank account number?

even just a note that said, “my heart breaks to tell you this, but i feel it is my moral duty to inform you. your husband is involved in an emotional and sexual relationship with _____. the two of them are conspiring to leave both of their current spouses and form a separate union. they are diverting money into a joint bank account. even if this seems suspicious, please consider investigating and draw your own conclusions.”

i would be very wary of letting your co-workers know it’s you that spilled the beans. people can go a little crazy when they’re “found out” in their sin… being targeted can be dangerous.

i think you should tell, but anonymously. you might even create a false email address and include it in your note. (“please email me at the following address if you would like to correspond.”) but, i would NOT email her the actual note of explanation…i would send it in a non-descript package addressed only to the wife.

sorry if i sound overly covert. i knew of a similar situation that got ugly.
 
Dont get involved. Trust me - You will end up being the bad guy if you do. You witnessed to her - that is enough. Your moral obligation ends there.

Besides, if you work with them, getting involved in something like this can even jeopardize your job.

Good luck - but consider my advice carefully.
 
I agree, stay out of the personal lives of co-workers. To not get involved in this drama - you can be a witness in your love and compassion and integrity.

Being a whistle blower on a marriage can backfire!

If this were your best friend, or your sister’s marriage, you might have reason to be involved - not for a co worker/ casual friend. Pray for all of them.
 
I think the idea of an anonymous message is a good one. You could print it on plain paper and mail it from a remote post office with no return address so it couldn’t be traced back to you. It is not only the married woman who is being hurt, but also her children.

You should ask yourself, “why is the man’s mistress telling me all this?” There’s a good chance that she knows in her heart of hearts that it is wrong and is hoping it will be revealed. People who become immersed in sin will often do things to get caught.

It sounds like this affair has gone way too far, and will most likely end in divorce. It’s too bad you didn’t say something when it first began. There may have been a chance for reconcilliation.
 
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convertbackhome:
. These individuals have set up a bank account and are diverting $$ from their families to plan for their future. What is the proper way to deal with this situation? I have been praying about it for over a year and it is causing me much distress.
Very illegal for them to do this! Are they morons (sorry) once they file for divorce, it is going to come up and be found out. As a licensed lawyer I have access to databases for use in practice only that find this stuff out for a small fee.
 
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convertbackhome:
I have 2 friends who are having an affair with one another. One is a Eucharistic Minister in the Episcopal faith married for 20+ yrs with 2 children and the other is a divorced mother of 3 not active in any faith. I am familiar with the wife of the one participant in this situation. These individuals have set up a bank account and are diverting $$ from their families to plan for their future. What is the proper way to deal with this situation? I have been praying about it for over a year and it is causing me much distress.
I would most definately confront in love, and tell them what they are doing is wrong and sinful and is hurting many in the process. Why do people have such a difficult time standing up for right and wrong in this day and age??? I would also see the pastor of the Episcopal parish asap and let him know too.

Good Luck! This type of thing cannot and will NOT lead to any fruit, only weeds. After you’ve confronted, if they still continue, it’s their own salvation and misery on the line, not yours. People have free will. If they choose to not listen to you–stay out of it and don’t make it your problem anymore. You did what you could.
 
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convertbackhome:
I have 2 friends who are having an affair with one another. One is a Eucharistic Minister in the Episcopal faith married for 20+ yrs with 2 children and the other is a divorced mother of 3 not active in any faith. I am familiar with the wife of the one participant in this situation. These individuals have set up a bank account and are diverting $$ from their families to plan for their future. What is the proper way to deal with this situation? I have been praying about it for over a year and it is causing me much distress.
I think you have an obligation to let the wife know ASAP. She has to protect herself and her children. I’d even encourage her to get a private investigator to document his diversion of the family monies and confront him with the evidence. I would be willing to bet that the wife has her suspicions. I’m sure this man has not been the most attentive husband and father for the past year. You don’t owe this man or the woman he is cheating with any favors. They are not the injured parties. But I do think you owe the wife what knowledge you have. She will probably admit that she suspected it for some time. She needs to be pushed into taking action to protect herself and her children.

Good luck.

Karen
 
It is interesting to read the responses on this post. I know from experience that nothing anyone says to this couple is going to make them stop what they are doing and I"ll tell you why. When an affair is going on, its like living two lives. One normal life and one secret life. If people in your normal life tell you to change your secret life…the person pretty much forgets about it while engaged in the practices of the secret life. an affair is only fun while you’re getting away with it. Some people can marry the person they had an affair with and be fine. But it doesn’t normally work that way. My point is, just tell them how you feel talk to your priest, and pray. Stay out of it because they are not listening to you anyway. Don’t go behind their back and try to “punish” them by exposing their affair. They will be punished eventually. Their marriages will both break up and they will have to live with the mental anguish the rest of their lives. Unfortunately, so will the spouses. I know this all because i was involved with a married man from my workplace a few years ago. People tried to help me too and we even almost got caught a few times and we had to lie to get out of it. There was nothing anyone could do. To get out of it took quitting my job, making a conscious effort not to talk to him, blocking him from my email and messenger, and therapy. I still live with the residual effects of what I did and I will be eternally regretful. Don’t worry. This affair will all fall down upon them eventually. If you are a good friend you’ll be there with comfort and prayer. The friends that I still have after my affair are the best friends I’ll ever know. Be known as the friend who helped them up, not the one that brought them down. You can point out the sin to both of them. But let God do the punishing.

:blessyou:
 
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Kater30:
It is interesting to read the responses on this post. I know from experience that nothing anyone says to this couple is going to make them stop what they are doing and I"ll tell you why. When an affair is going on, its like living two lives. One normal life and one secret life. If people in your normal life tell you to change your secret life…the person pretty much forgets about it while engaged in the practices of the secret life. an affair is only fun while you’re getting away with it. Some people can marry the person they had an affair with and be fine. But it doesn’t normally work that way. My point is, just tell them how you feel talk to your priest, and pray. Stay out of it because they are not listening to you anyway. Don’t go behind their back and try to “punish” them by exposing their affair. They will be punished eventually. Their marriages will both break up and they will have to live with the mental anguish the rest of their lives. Unfortunately, so will the spouses. I know this all because i was involved with a married man from my workplace a few years ago. People tried to help me too and we even almost got caught a few times and we had to lie to get out of it. There was nothing anyone could do. To get out of it took quitting my job, making a conscious effort not to talk to him, blocking him from my email and messenger, and therapy. I still live with the residual effects of what I did and I will be eternally regretful. Don’t worry. This affair will all fall down upon them eventually. If you are a good friend you’ll be there with comfort and prayer. The friends that I still have after my affair are the best friends I’ll ever know. Be known as the friend who helped them up, not the one that brought them down. You can point out the sin to both of them. But let God do the punishing.

:blessyou:
Sounds like you already knew how to think and what you wanted to do on the situation anyway!!! Great!!! I do think however, it might be wise to follow some of the advice here, such as letting the Priest know, as this person is not qualified now to be a Eucharistic Minister any longer. Don’t you agree? Also I do think the wife MUST be told as well. She’s being deliberately deceived —and would be so grateful to be told. She probably has an idea anyway–but the sooner the better to get down to business. Why postpone the misery any longer? You’ll be doing her a favor.

Sometimes by saying nothing, you are making a statement too you know. Yes indeed!
 
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Kater30:
Be known as the friend who helped them up, not the one that brought them down. You can point out the sin to both of them. But let God do the punishing.
Code:
This is the only thing that brings me peace in any kind of fornication/adultery situation. My duty is to let them know that their little ‘meange a trois’ is adultery and it doesn’t matter if it is consensual. After that, I continue my relationship with them. They know where I stand and I end up hating the sin and loving the sinner. My conscience is clear…9we must also pray, of coursr, that is to be understood).

Blessings,
Shoshana
 
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sparkle:
I do think however, it might be wise to follow some of the advice here, such as letting the Priest know, as this person is not qualified now to be a Eucharistic Minister any longer. Don’t you agree?
I agree that the priest should be told, and they should be removed from such a role.

How many people are Eucharisitc Ministers and in mortal sin - having affairs, unmarried sexual activity and the likes? I, too, have a good friend acting as a Eucharistic Minister having unmarried sex and affairs. A rant for a different thread I guess.

Wow this is a tough one. While trying to do the moral, just, and compassionate thing, it seems Convertbackhome will inevitably get some backlash by telling the spouse, confronting the adulterers, and working with them to boot. What ever choice is made will have ramifications.
 
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