Inlaws, stichomancy and a series of unfortunate events

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Here’s my situation:
  1. In 2003 my first wife filed for divorce. She did not want to undergo counseling. She reasoned that “I don’t want kids - you can always file for an annulment and marry someone who does.” Divorce finalized that same year.
  2. I considered doing the logical thing - resorting to prayer and the sacraments
  3. Instead, I reacted out of hurt, and left the church. I proceeded to marry a catholic woman - but in a civil ceremony, without an annulment of the first marriage.
  4. But then had a correction of conscience, and filed for annulment. As of March of this year, it has been approved by the archdiocese. We are making arrangements to have our marriage regularized.
  5. Meanwhile…My wife fell, tearing several ligaments in one knee, the acl tendon in the other. Surgery, recovery, rehab. Then I found a great job I loved. Lost it 6 months later. I got plenty of temp work. But then my wifes disability benefits were suddenly cut off. I found a great permanent job opportunity - but was nudged out at the last minute by another candidate with a degree. Wife’s disability reinstated - then the dog goes down with Intervertebral disc disease. Paralyzed. But he recovers - is now standing and can walk a few steps. Thanks to doggie chiropractic.
  6. Deep pause for breath
    So this Friday, my father in law calls. Sunday he’ll have a message from God. Explaining why all this is happening.
Oy vey.

Sunday he calls - having spent the last few days flipping through random passages of the bible looking for messages.

In summary
  1. My wife and I are excommunicated
  2. We should attend mass- but not participate.
  3. We have no respect for the eucharist.
  4. God is punishing us, but sparing us because of my father-in-law’s intercession
  5. We are not to publicly celebrate the regularization of this marriage. We will have a private ceremony, with a priest of his choosing.
um - okay. We politely thank him, and say we’ll get back to him.

Lets go point by point
  1. I thought the excommunication of people in our situation was lifted back in 1977?
  2. This is flat wrong - John Paul II affirms the opposite in Familiaris Consortio
  3. Um - yes I do. That’s why, now that I know its against the rules, I don’t intend to receive the eucharist, until this situation is settled. That’s why my focus is now on adoration.
  4. Excuse me? What about Christ’s intercession?
  5. Isn’t this something that needs to be discussed with our parish priest? And done in accordance with canon law and the rules of the diocese? Furthermore - I thought you had to have special permission to celebrate a sacrament privately?
Furthermore - when I was a flaming new ager - we called random flipping in the bible “stichomancy” - a form of divination. Isn’t that condemned by the church?

And don’t his locutions fall under the category of private revelations?

Can anyone give me advice on how to tactfully deal with this?

Another issue - we feel he’s raising the matter of a private ceremony for financial reasons. Whatever the reasons, I strongly feel my parents should be invited. They financed the whole annulment proceeding.

They did this even though they are protestant. They did this even though they do not believe in the whole process - they
simply wanted my wife and myself to start with a good foundation - without a lot of family dissension.

Help.
 
FIL wants to criticize you, he will find some other peg to hang his ugly hat on once your marriage is regularized. However, he is her father, and you are stuck with him for the long haul. The two of you have to decide together how to handle him. good luck, he will never change.
 
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Furthermore - when I was a flaming new ager - we called random flipping in the bible “stichomancy” - a form of divination. Isn’t that condemned by the church?
Indeed it is condemned by the Church. I believe more than one council has condemned it. I wish I could find the references right now…
 
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Can anyone give me advice on how to tactfully deal with this?
I think you’ve got a good start with your responce to point #5. This is something that should be between you, your wife, God and your priest. As much as your FIL may not want to admit it, this is /your/ life and he only has as much say in it as you let him.
I would say to start with, try to acknowledge to him that you respect his concern for you and your wife (his little girl) and you have trust and faith in God that He will continue to have control over your lives and guide to where He needs/wants you to be. Sometimes all we can do is have faith.
 
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Sunday he calls - having spent the last few days flipping through random passages of the bible looking for messages.

And don’t his locutions fall under the category of private revelations?
No. They fall under the categories of “emotional extortion,” “manipulation,” and “meddling.” Since when is your Protestant father-in-law a Catholic ecclesiologist?
 
First, I need to correct myself…

I stated my dog was recovering “thanks to doggie chiropractic”

No. This is not the case - Thanks to GOD above all. Thanks to God for nudging us to go for chiropractic rather than the surgical route.

Second - we just got back from a meeting with our parish priest. We have a green light for the (very public) nuptual mass on September 3.

With a labor day barbeque rather than a reception. Hey - the prodigal children are coming home to the sacraments. Let’s kill the fatted calf!

puzzleannie - good point. I will try to pay him the repect I owe him.

Benedictus - searching myself…

PandaBean - I will try to keep in mind that, with God’s help, I am to be a dad soon too. I’ll try to imagine how I’ll feel if she’s a girl. And try to remember all this when she does grow up!

Your tag line says it all - “Jesus - I trust in you”

Pentecost - Yup. That about sums it up. Only one correction - father-in-law is Catholic. My parents are protestant (I’m a convert).
 
By any chance, is your FIL ex-military or police? My dad is a retired cop - and a mega control freak. Hopefully, he will realize the true love you have for Christ, your faith, and your wife - sooner rather than later. Be a shining beacon for him.

Love the chiropractic note. My hubby is a chiropractor by profession (and a deacon by vocation), and we’ve had our share of canine patients. The one that really made him nervous was the doberman, who, after her adjustment, promptly rolled onto her back and presented her belly for scratching! 🙂
 
Sue,

Yup. Ex-cop.

The more time passes, the less indignant and more loving I become about the whole situation.

Very cool to hear about your husband. And a permanent Deacon no less! Not thinking of moving to CA are you? lol.

Trusting everyone (including the Dog) to Christ…
 
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