Instructions for Morning Prayer

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Can someone tell me where to find SPECIFIC instruction on how to say every part of morning prayer. I have the sheet that tells you what page to start on each day. My specific problem is whether or not you say “Amen” after the Our Father. I have been taught you always say “Amen” except at Mass, where we have the Doxology and then our response with the Amen.

I was chastised this morning for saying Amen and told the “instructions” say to NOT say Amen. I cannot find specific instructions. Thanks.
 
NanaGigi… in order to help you with this you have to be more specific. I don’t know if you are talking about the Liturgy of the Hours or another form of prayer.

Just in case you are…

We would have to know whether you are using the 4 volume LOTH or the one volume Christian Prayer book or the even more condensed Shorter Christian Prayer. The beginning of the Christian Prayer book (which I have) has the outline of what prayers, psalms etc are contained in each hour starting on page 34.

The best online explanation that I have found on the Hours is from the Rosary Shop’s site in a .pdf file called “Discovering Prayer” here:

prayer.rosaryshop.com/discoveringPrayer.pdf

Other than this it is slim pickings on the net as far as info.

***These are my notes below as to the LOTH for Morning Prayer (I use it so I don’t have to be flipping pages wondering what the sequence is or if I am doing it right)

MORNING PRAYER: (**Rules throughtout the year…>> Begins w/Invitatory. SOLEMNITIES= Proper, Commons w/ Psalms from 1st wk of Sunday. FEASTS= All Proper or Commons w/ Psalms from Sunday of 1st week. MEMORIALS= Psalms w/ antiphons of current weekday, Antiphon of Invitatory, hymn, reading, responsory antiphons for Benedictus & Magnificat, intercessions <<if assigned, if not taken from Commons or current weekday>>, Concluding prayer always proper.)
  • Introductory Verse (without Glory be and Alleluia)
  • Hymn (from 4 wk Psalter or Proper of Seasons)
  • Psalmody (Morning Psalm, O.T. Canticle, Psalm of Praise all w/their Antiphons said at beginning of each verse)
  • Reading
  • Responsory
  • Canticle (Benedictus or Magnificat… w/ Antiphons)
  • Intercessions
  • Our Father
  • Concluding Prayer (without “Let us pray” & long conclusion. With exception of weekdays in Ordinary time) & taken from the Psalter!
  • Dismissal (If priest/deacon present people are dismissed w/“May the Lord bless us”)
God bless
 
Glory to Jesus Christ.

NanaGigi, I’ll assume you’re talking about the Divine Office. You’ll want to consult the General Instruction of the Liturgy of the Hours (G.I.L.H. for short? - Kind of like the G.I.R.M.). You can find it in volume I (Advent and Christmas) of the four volume set. I’m not sure if it’s included with the shorter Christian Prayer book as I don’t have it to check.

Of course, the G.I.L.H. (We’ll use that for now) is pretty big and you may want to read a shorter instruction. You can find one at Universalis, though it’s obviously not as expansive and probably won’t address your specific problem.

To get to your problem, from what I recall from the G.I.H.L. one is not to say “Amen” after the Lord’s Prayer because there is a concluding prayer. After the concluding prayer one should say “Amen” then the appropriate dismissal followed by another “Amen”. One ought to stick to the rubrics for the Divine Office, even in private recitation, since it is a liturgy just like the Mass.

I hope this helps you. God bless.
 
Maryam said:
CORRECTION ON LAST PART “DISMISSAL”…
  • Dismissal (If priest/deacon present people are dismissed with “The Lord be with you. --And also with you” If Priest/Deacon not present say “May the Lord bless us, protect us from all evil and bring us to everlasting life. Amen”)
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Opps… forgot to answer the “Amen” question…

I personally have never heard of omitting the “Amen” after saying the Our Father. That is a first for me… I re-read the **General Instruction of the Liturgy of the Hours **and found nothing that stated that one could not say “Amen” after the Our Father.

I could be wrong… but, I’ve gone over the GILH even looking for any parts on the usage of “Amen” and found nothing on this as well. Hopefully others will also chime in on this and help you out.

God bless
 
Ok, in re-reading also the “Discovering Prayer” .pdf file I gave you a link to… It says the “Amen” after the Our Father is indeed omitted…:cool: Aureole is then correct! 👍 And I need to invest in reading glasses! LOLOL

Here is what it says:

And now let us pray as Christ taught us:

Our Father, who art in heaven…
.
The concluding “Amen” that you instinctively
wish to say is omitted.

I wonder why the GILH doesn’t mention this or my eyes are really that bad when it comes to reading. :eek:

God bless
 
Thank you ALL for your instructions! Now I know where to go.

It is the Christian Morning Prayer that we are doing before Mass each morning in the tiny chapel off the sacristy. I’ve only been doing it for a couple of weeks so not really with the program yet. You have all helped me immensely! Blessings. Gigi
 
Maryam, I’m certain that before I started praying the Divine Office I read the same document you linked to here. It’s quite good and, unless I’m mistaken, even provides a section for learning to chant the Hours. I think I’m going to look into that section again since I’m quite familiar with the prayers now.

NanaGigi, I’m glad we were of some use. Be sure to ask any other questions about the Divine Office that may arise. You’ll soon get used to it and find your place easily, don’t worry about that.

God bless.
 
The document is extremely helpful. Great link 👍

If someone doesn’t mind me piggybacking another question onto this thread: in recitation on one’s own for Lauds and Vespers one makes the sign of the cross at “The Lord bless us…” at the end. But for Compline/Night Prayer no cross is made at “the Lord grant us a quiet night” and the heading in my ‘Daily Prayer’ book says ‘Blessing’. Could someone provide a reference to why the sign of the cross is made at the former but not the latter? I’ve looked in the GILH but it doesn’t mention signs of the cross at that point at all for either.

(And as I always do, you can click on the link in my signature to access the propers for the day and the Ordinary (sans Amen for the Our Father))
 
AJV said:
The document is extremely helpful. Great link 👍

If someone doesn’t mind me piggybacking another question onto this thread: in recitation on one’s own for Lauds and Vespers one makes the sign of the cross at “The Lord bless us…” at the end. But for Compline/Night Prayer no cross is made at “the Lord grant us a quiet night” and the heading in my ‘Daily Prayer’ book says ‘Blessing’. Could someone provide a reference to why the sign of the cross is made at the former but not the latter? I’ve looked in the GILH but it doesn’t mention signs of the cross at that point at all for either.

(And as I always do, you can click on the link in my signature to access the propers for the day and the Ordinary (sans Amen for the Our Father))
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According to my understanding of it… the “blessing” is the prayer itself , it is a blessing prayer>>>“May the all powerful Lord grant us a restful night and a peaceful death”… It’s not speaking of the Sign of the Cross, but is the blessing said after the Concluding Prayer.

In my Christian Prayer 1 volume LOTH it states on page 1049 in red print "The blessing is said, even in individual recitation: and then follows the blessing prayer “May the all powerful Lord…”

If I am wrong someone please correct me… 🙂 I don’t know about the sign of the Cross as my Christian Prayer book doesn’t speak of this, but, in the Discovering Prayer .pdf file it does. I too don’t see it in the GILH.

God bless
 
Maryam said:
Ok, in re-reading also the “Discovering Prayer” .pdf file I gave you a link to… It says the “Amen” after the Our Father is indeed omitted…:cool: Aureole is then correct! 👍 And I need to invest in reading glasses! LOLOL

Here is what it says:

And now let us pray as Christ taught us:

Our Father, who art in heaven…
.
The concluding “Amen” that you instinctively
wish to say is omitted.

I wonder why the GILH doesn’t mention this or my eyes are really that bad when it comes to reading. :eek:

God bless
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It may not be in the GILH, but it is implicit in the rubrics.

The *Ordinarium Liturgiae Horarum * renders the *oratio Dominica “Pater noster…sed libera nos a malo.” *(ie without a concluding “Amen”), followed by the rubric:

Post Pater noster dicitur immediate, et sine Oremus, oratio conclusiva…

Which the ICEL renders:

The concluding prayer, without the invitation Let us Pray, is added immediately after the Lord’s Prayer.

(Though my edition of *Christian Prayer *does not include the whole of the Lord’s Prayer in the ordinary, so that edition is ambiguous regarding the “Amen”; I believe it is correct to follow the example of the Liturgia Horarum)

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AJV, I would have to agree with Maryam’s explanation. There is a difference in the conclusion for Lauds/Vespers and Compline. The conclusion of Compline is a blessing in and of itself, there is no need to make the Sign of the Cross (Though I doubt it’s necessarily bad - Ask a liturgist maybe?). Lauds/Vespers concludes with a dismissal, either:

The Lord be with you.
R) And also with you.
*May almighty God bless you, the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
*R) Amen.
Go in peace.
R) Thanks be to God.

Or:

May the Lord bless us, protect us from all evil and bring us to everlasting life.
R) Amen.

The Sign of the Cross, made during the time in italics when recited in public, is the blessing for Lauds/Vespers. The blessing is made during dismissal; in Compline the blessing and dismissal are one. Does this make any sense?
 
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