Interacting with my mum’s health care providers

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Recently I have had to interact with quite a few health care practitioners due to my elderly mum’s serious health issues.
Sometimes I feel scared though to speak openly my views in case it offends then and then they “retaliate” towards my mothers healthcare.

For example, a specialist because angry because I cancelled an appointment at a certain (public) hospital that he wanted my mum to attend that hospital and I arranged an appointment instead at a different hospital that seemed more progressive and modern.

I cancelled the one at hospital he wanted because the doctor my mum was “randomly assigned to” I could tell that he was outdated both in personality and skill and still looked like from the 1970’s and I don’t want to make a wrong decision to affect my mother’s health as she is elderly and not young like myself.
When a doctor doesn’t even have a website and still used outdated things like pidgeon holes etc I don’t have much confidence they are keeping updated with skill.

Long story short, I am torn between doing what “doctors say always” for fear of reprisal towards mum and following my judgment and gut to avoid something negative happening to her.

Doctors often are right but sometimes they can bad judgment or refer to bad colleague with patient consequences.

It’s not that I feel I know better but sometimes there are instances patients should think for themselves.

Does anyone have any suggestion how to navigate the egos, stay pleasant etc but not just follow without using own judgment etc?

My mum will basically just do whatever doctor says, rightly or wrongly:/
 
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Sometimes I feel scared though to speak openly my views in case it offends then and then they “retaliate” towards my mothers healthcare.
It seems as if you have some responsibility in managing your mother’s healthcare, so no matter how mad and upset people may get, you have to do whatever is best for her. If you are not being rude about your cancellations, and decisions to see another, the reaction is not for you to worry about in the slightest. Even when you are polite about these things, nothing will appease everyone.
 
Long story short, I am torn between doing what “doctors say always” for fear of reprisal towards mum and following my judgment and gut to avoid something negative happening to her.
I would research the hospitals, latest treatment options, etc and go with your gut.

However, I wouldn’t do away with a doctor based on age or internet appearance. I would see if his/her diagnose and treatment are the norm for the conditions of your mother. (internet search and second opinions)

The newer trend seems to want to stop treatment and allow patients to die comfortably. Older doctors tend to want to fix the issue and keep the patient alive. However, some do need to retire.
 
he was outdated both in personality and skill and still looked like from the 1970’s
How could you “tell” he wasn’t a good doctor?
When a doctor doesn’t even have a website and still used outdated things like pidgeon holes etc I don’t have much confidence they are keeping updated with skill.
None of the things you mentioned here tells anything about his skill & knowledge as a physician. Back before the early 90’s most doctors, hospitals, or care facilities had websites. We used good old fashion word of mouth, didn’t even use Facebook recommendations.
Does anyone have any suggestion how to navigate the egos, stay pleasant etc but not just follow without using own judgment etc?
I’m sorry to say this but if you are using the above information, looks, lack of website, using “old fashion” methods for non medical procedures, your judgement may not be best for your mother.
 
Last paragraph is a bit harsh:/

I personally do believe that having a website, and a modern one, a photo of themselves online etc definitely can provide information about the doctors mindset and how modern and updated they are both with skill and bedside manner.

By “looks” I clearly don’t mean a persons physical attractiveness but “the feel of the person”.

I am not suggesting that new is always better than old.
Just like with art, sometimes old can be better than new (I prefer old art styles rather than contemporary).

Nothing is 100 % foolproof but we use these important pieces of information to form a picture of the doctor as much as we can.

Online information is extremely important these days especially reviews.
Other patients reviews, while still should be read critically, have really become a game changer to the Medical profession as prior to this the profession were exempt from being seen as service and customer industry like all other businesses.
Online reviews have increased their need for transparency and customer service.

I have no prejudice about a doctors age.
For example, there are specialists in their 60’s and 70’s who are very modern minded, embrace continual training and education in the latest skills and have a modern website created for them etc…
They have both age, experience and agility on their side.

In the other hand, there are plenty other doctors who have become lax and comfortable and have no interest in further training.
Yes, one can sometimes tell this from their profile and outdated office etc especially when you have been around the medical industry long enough.
It is not about “modern for the sake of modernness” but about mindsets (I hope that makes sense).

It is possible that a doctor like this might still provide a good treatment for my mother but it is taking a risk.
Life come with risk but I want to minimalism risk as much as possible for my elderly mother.

Choosing doctors for medical treatments is much more serious but it is like going to a hairdresser that does not have a website or has very daggy business card etc- a person may get surprised and receive really great cut/dye job but it is taking a risk.
 
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Sometimes eldest doctors can be the best doctors:)

By outdated in personality, I’m not referring literally to personality/hobbies itself but more to bedside manner etc.
For example there are doctors that have been taught in medical school in earlier periods to practice a very paternalistic form of medicine and they get angry when patients have own opinions or question things etc…

Another personality factor might be being lax to keep up with continued education.

For example the way a wound issue was addressed in the 70’s may not be best practice today.

Or the doctor may only know of surgical option for something but there may now be other options like laser treatment, hyperbaric, minimally invasive surgery etc…
 
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Online information is extremely important these days especially reviews.
Other patients reviews, while still should be read critically, have really become a game changer to the Medical profession as prior to this the profession were exempt from being seen as service and customer industry like all other businesses.
Online reviews have increased their need for transparency and customer service.
This information can be obtained without the physician having a website.
In the other hand, there are plenty other doctors who have become lax and comfortable and have no interest in further training.
Doctors who do not keep up with training and modern methods often do not stay in practice long.
Choosing doctors for medical treatments is much more serious but it is like going to a hairdresser that does not have a website or has very daggy business card etc- a person may get surprised and receive really great cut/dye job but it is taking a risk.
None of my doctors have a website. I have a serious chronic medical condition and see four doctors on a regular basis. None of them advertise their skills via websites and all of them are the best at what they do. Three of the 4 doctors are over 60 and are extremely skilled at what they do.

Comparing choosing a doctor with choosing a hairdresser is ridiculous.
 
Doctors who do not keep up with training and modern methods often do not stay in practice long.
In my country, once a doctor qualifies they are able to practice for as long as they want including if they do not keep up to date.
There is a skill shortage and permanent residency is also given to doctors trained overseas (I’m not stating this because I think it’s negative but to point out there is lack of supply vs demand therefore practitioners can stay in business as long as they want).
Comparing choosing a doctor with choosing a hairdresser is ridiculous.
Ok…then. Some Americans speak quite abrasively…

I wasn’t suggesting they were comparable I was just using an analogy.
Clearly choosing a doctor is much more serious.

Im glad you have found good doctors that you are happy with.
 
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I don’t know what the laws are where you live, but here in the U.S. it’s illegal for any healthcare practitioner to “retaliate” against a patient just because he or she disagrees with the wishes or decisions of the patient’s family. We have what’s known as a “Patients Bill of Rights”, and that kind of behavior is strictly against the law.

Any practitioner who will take revenge against a patient has no business practicing in any healthcare field.
 
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