Interesting article about the three groups of Catholics

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Catholics don’t tend to split into groups. They just work on making their own parish the way they want it. It’s easier.
If the traditionalists want to join another group rather than stay in the Church, they could just go join the SSPX. Some do but most don’t bother.
I really don’t see a formal schism coming any time soon.
 
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Catholics don’t tend to split into groups. They just work on making their own parish the way they want it. It’s easier.
If the traditionalists want to join another group rather than stay in the Church, they could just go join the SSPX. Some do but most don’t bother.
I really don’t see a formal schism coming any time soon.
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Hopefully not. Schism has seldom solved anything.
 
There are some people would like to see this split, but I believe God wants us to work together to make His church better.
We are a big tent.
We can agree to disagree on some things, but we must stick together.
The main thing is that we all should glorify and praise God in all that we do, and to love and serve one another as Brothers and Sisters this world.
 
The SSPX may be in an irregular situation but they are still part of the Church. They pray for the Holy Father and the local bishop at every Mass, Benediction etc.
 
We are all parts of the Body of Christ.

Now which body parts, I leave that for you to decide. 🤣
 
I also agree that there are three types
  1. Orthodox Catholics who obey and respect church Fathers, tradition and truth.
  2. Heterodox Catholics (dissenters) who don’t. A large group getting larger because of…
  3. Those in the middle who as time goes on will veer one side or the other (but majority towards position 2)
 
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steph03 said:
I hate to read this, but there is some truth to this article. It wonders how long the Traditionalists, Conservatives, and Progressives can continue to function together in the One Holy Catholic Church.

https://cruxnow.com/church/2015/10/06/is-catholicism-about-to-break-into-three/
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The Church Jesus established on Peter and those in complete union with Peter, is already by definition, ONE with each other, and One with our Founder, Jesus. And Jesus will sustain that unity. However, each individual, in the Church then, should strive and persevere, to be in, and remain in, till the end, that unity…personally. I think of it as an individual test. That test is on going till we take our last breath here.

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Just to take one of the groups you mention.

Re: “Progressives” / “liberals”, I.E. The “Left”​

scripture says THIS about the left
 
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I have no doubt that the author of Ecclesiastes meant that right symbolizes good and left symbolizes bad, but you are conflating it with today’s political terminology in which left means progressive or liberal. This is an abuse of Scripture in my opinion.
 
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Beryllos said:
I have no doubt that the author of Ecclesiastes meant that right symbolizes good and left symbolizes bad, but you are conflating it with today’s political terminology in which left means progressive or liberal. This is an abuse of Scripture in my opinion.
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The God I believe in, knows everything from the beginning of time to the end of time, and all that’s in between in perfect detail
 
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America and American Christianity is very split.

It would be interesting to see if this analysis carries over to Catholics in other countries.

Or for Catholics in countries with active persecution happening.
 
It seems rather strange to me that the Crux article is based on a letter to the NY Times from Daniel Maguire, a former Catholic priest who has written in support of same sex marriage, contraception, and abortion. He has been a dissenter on matters of Catholic doctrine for a very long time.
 
I recall my baptist theology professor at my Jesuit college observing that Protestantism deals with creative minorities by splintering into new denominations, while Catholicism deals with it by creating religious orders . . .

(note that neither St. Frances nor St. Ignatius were “mainstream” in their day . . .)

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The words of Pope Benedict XV seem relevant here:

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Excerpt From: a common quotation
"IN ESSENTIALS UNITY, IN NON-ESSENTIALS LIBERTY, IN ALL THINGS CHARITY.

NOTE
On the Origin of the Sentence: “In necessariis unitas, in non-necessariis (or, dubiis) libertas, in utrisque (or, omnibus) caritas.”
This famous motto of Christian Irenics, which I have slightly modified in the text, is often falsely attributed to St. Augustin (whose creed would not allow it, though his heart might have approved of it), but is of much later origin. It appears for the first time in Germany, A.D. 1627 and 1628, among peaceful divines of the Lutheran and German Reformed churches, and found a hearty welcome among moderate divines In England………
 
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edwest211 said:
This is the best answer.
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Yet I think we can all think of a person we know, or know of, who can go by both Christian and Catholic, and be a terrible example of both. It would certainly have a major effect in my recommending such a person for various things, for example
 
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Could you elaborate? All of us fall. The key thing is to get back up. Yes, there are bad examples but there are also good ones.
 
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