Interpreting the Mass Readings 10-1-2006

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Can anyone tell me what they got out of the Mass readings yesterday? My pastor went off on Respect for Life but discussed child sex abuse. At any rate, I’m not sure he helped my understanding of the readings!😃

Here’s a link to the readings in case anyone forgot.

usccb.org/nab/100106.shtml
 
Can anyone tell me what they got out of the Mass readings yesterday? My pastor went off on Respect for Life but discussed child sex abuse. At any rate, I’m not sure he helped my understanding of the readings!😃
Here’s a link to the readings in case anyone forgot.

usccb.org/nab/100106.shtml
I actually walked away wondering something myself. This priest helps out on weekends so he said the mass yesterday. He told us that there should not be divisions between religions. We are all loved by God and we should not hold barriers or exclude people because of race, gender, religion. I understand this to a point. He then went on to say that God is not Catholic and we should respect everyone and their religion. So, I wondered if Catholicism is considered the One True Church is that letting other religions think that we are better than them?
 
Can anyone tell me what they got out of the Mass readings yesterday? My pastor went off on Respect for Life but discussed child sex abuse. At any rate, I’m not sure he helped my understanding of the readings!😃

Here’s a link to the readings in case anyone forgot.

usccb.org/nab/100106.shtml
We also got the pro-life message, but in addition, he spoke to the readings.

Just as Moses rebuked Joshua for complaining about Eldad and Medad prophesying, Jesus rebuked John for complaining about someone driving out demons in His name. There is a parallel there. As Jesus said, “There is no one who performs a mighty deed in My name who can at the same time speak ill of me.”

Our priest mentioned that God is bigger than anything on earth. He said that God can allow someone to do His work that is Catholic or not. We must accept God’s blessings wherever they come from. He mentioned that we spend far too much time severing the body of Christ (Christ’s people) rather than focusing on the real evil in the world that must be tackled.

Re: cutting of the hand/foot or plucking out the eye. He likened this to “cleaning up our lives.” He said many of these things may be the one thing that makes us fall into Gehenna. If you have a drug addiction, if you drink too much and abuse your family, if you surf internet porn, if you cheat your company…whatever it is you do, you must eliminate it from your life, lest it take you down. He said, “Some of you may ask, Father, what is it? Tell me what I must cut out. And to you I would say - you are not being honest with yourself. You already know what you must do.”

Hope this offered something for you!

Peace,
DS
 
I started a thread on this exact topic in Apologetics, but I’ll rob my post there and place it here:

After reading one more time how Catholic’s “worshipping” Mary is the work of the Devil, (thanks, bibleapologist for the thread), I’ve been looking for additional justification on why Catholics venerate Mary so much. Then in Sunday’s (October 1st) Gospel I came accross this passage from Mark chapter 9 verse 38 and following:

At that time, John said to Jesus, “Teacher, we saw someone driving out demons in your name, and we tried to prevent him because he does not follow us.” Jesus replied, "Do not prevent him. There is no one who performs a mighty deed in my name who can at the same time speak ill of me. For whoever is not against us is for us. Anyone who gives you a cup of water to drink because you belong to Christ, amen, I say to you, will surely not lose his reward.

We’ve all read many stories about Mary’s Visitations and Healings, and her message invariably is, “Follow Jesus”. I think our Lord Himself was showing us that Mary would be working to do His Will.
 
Our priest’s homily was mostly on the “cutting off of the hand” part of the gospel.

He went on to say that it is not to be taken literally, but that Jesus is reminding us that we need to love Him more than anything we have including our limbs or our life. As well as that there are things that are difficult to do, but for our love of Him, we must do them. It may be as difficult as cutting off a limb, but we still need to show our love for Him and follow Him no matter what.

Got into some concrete situations, including getting out of bed early to go to Mass. And although it should not be hard to do this, we sometimes get into bad habits that feed upon themselves and get worse. Until, for some, even getting up to go to Mass is a huge deal. This one stuck in my mind because I just did not want to go to Mass that morning for a variety of reasons and had to really work to get there.

He said things much better than I just explained. Really nice Homily with lots of concrete help to apply the gospel to our lives.

God Bless,
Maria
 
If it is helpful to you, you may want to visit the weekly Bible study on the Gospel at my web page, linked below.
 
I’m going to share this homily from a young priest with you guys. He is in a different city but he e-mails me his homilies. Hd told me it’s ok to share his homilies so here it is
When I made a pilgrimage to the Holy Land in 1987, our tour guide showed us a millstone. It is a big rock the size of a table, flat on top, on which you grind wheat and corn into flour. It takes several men to move a millstone; they are huge!
Jesus says in the Gospel, “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believes in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone around his neck and cast into the depths of the sea!”
Jesus is talking about the sin of “scandal.” It must be a very terrible thing for him to speak like this. Mostly, when we hear the word used today, it means someone’s personal fault has become public in the media A prominent politician has an affair, this hits the newspaper and television, and we have a scandal. Some big executive was embezzling money, it becomes news, and there is a big scandal. For the most part, scandal for us means the publicizing of someone’s sins or crimes. But for Jesus scandal is something a little different.
Scandal means you lead someone else into sin by taking advantage of their vulnerability. In other words, you are in a position of important responsibility and others looked to you with respect and trust, and then you took advantage of that position to lead the person into sin.
Most often, scandal is committed by an adult, and the victim is a child. Or it is committed by an older sibling, or an upperclassman, who deliberately misleads a younger and more naïve child, taking advantage of his youthfulness, or his naiveté. Another way to describe the sin of scandal: to “rob someone of their innocence.”
Jesus hates this sin? “Better to have a great millstone tied about his neck and drowned in the depths of the sea, than to scandalize one of these little ones.” Jesus loves the innocence of children; he loves the openness and naiveté and eagerness of youth. Jesus loves those who are not old enough to know about terrible sins and evil and corruption. He loves this because that is how it was supposed to be, that is how God originally created us in the Garden of Eden.
But now we are robbed of that natural joy and trust. We lose our innocence as we grow up. How? Someone robs us; or betrays us, or hurts us, or takes advantage of us. Someone is cruel to us; laughs at us and makes fun of the fact we don’t know about bad things and do them. That is the sin of scandal.
So when it comes to “scandals,” we need to be worried about a lot more than the failures of certain politicians and corporate executives and Hollywood stars. What are some examples of true scandals that do terrible damage to children, and have the potential to corrupt children? What are some sins of scandal that would upset Jesus to the point he would want you drowned?
A big source of scandal is the media, which likes to report bad things other people do, but is also guilty of its own terrible sin. When was the last time you heard the news media speaking positively about the good things our leaders are doing? It’s always negative. People have a very low opinion about our own national leaders, and people are very disrespectful and critical. Why? Because the news media only fosters negative scrutiny. It teaches us to lose respect, it even teaches us to have contempt, and this harms us as a nation. It is a sin.
But worse than the news media is the entertainment media. It leads us into thinking that it’s okay to use vulgarity and curse words; it glorifies violence and promotes pornography, fornication, adultery, homosexuality and hundreds of other sins. So much of what is promoted and glorified in music, movies, and entertainment, is actually offensive to God and sinful. Seeing these things all the time makes them seem okay. In other words, the “little ones who believe in Jesus” are being led into sin. The entertainment media is one of the biggest sources of scandal in our world today.
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          Scandal can happen in all areas, but one of the biggest areas we scandalize children and young people is sexual abuse, because this is an area we are vulnerable and weak as human beings.  Where children are supposed to have innocence and not have to worry about adult things until they grow up, so often the young are manipulated, and taken advantage of because of their natural ignorance and naiveté.  All around them, they are exposed to things, they see things, they hear things, which cause great confusion and harm.  And not just children, teenagers too, are told all sorts of things are okay, they are encouraged to do things and experiment, and often these practices leave them degraded, manipulated, and very hurt.  
          A big problem today is the way young people are being told that homosexuality is somehow okay or normal, and as a result many teenagers who might be having normal confusions are encouraged to do very demeaning and wrong things as if they’re natural.  This is a terrible terrible sin to do this to our children and youth.  And our society is doing it all the time.  It is scandalous.  
          Besides society and the media, individuals commit the sin of scandal.  Anyone who puts peer pressure on another person to commit a sin, is guilty of scandal.  Trying to talk someone into doing drugs, or to commit a crime such as stealing, is “scandal.”  Scandal means you sin twice.  First, you are doing something you’re not supposed to, and second, you are getting another person to do the sin as well.  
          The worst part about scandal is the way it corrupts the other person.  It harms their soul.  You got them to do something they never would have done on their own.  They were full of goodness and innocence, you were not, and now you took away their goodness and innocence.  That is really horrible.  It is satanic.  And hopefully we can understand why Jesus hates people who commit scandal and wishes they were drowned at the bottom of the lake!  
          What do we do about scandal?  First of all, make sure we never commit this sin!  Once we have corrupted another person’s soul, how are we ever going to be sorry for that, or make up for the damage we have done?  How can we go on in our relationship with God, when meanwhile someone else has turned to sin and is cut off from God because of us?  Who wants to live with that on his conscience?
 
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          And here I need to speak strongly to parents, and to older brothers and sisters.  Parents, it’s very easy to lead your children into sin and corrupt their innocence by the way you live.  Maybe you are not deliberately intending to scandalize your children, but what are you teaching your children about love through the way you live your marriage?  What are you teaching your children about respect by the way you treat each other?  What are you teaching your children about discipline by your discipline and diligence?  And what are you teaching your children about God, by the way you practice your faith?  
          Is it possible that you are actually leading your children away from God, and corrupting their baptismal faith, setting them up for a life of sin – not intentionally – but indirectly, because they don’t see the fruits of holiness in your life?  
          This last week I was at HEB in the checkout line, and heard a man in the aisle next to me tell his little toddler in a very mean voice to “shut up.”  That is scandalous, that is harmful to the child.  
          And older children, older brothers and sisters, your little siblings look up to you.  They admire you, they respect you, they want to do what you do, and they listen and watch everything you do.  Do you mislead them?  Do you teach them bad words, and show them how to do bad things?  That would be scandal.  
          Second, besides avoiding this sin ourselves, we need to do whatever we can to protect the vulnerable from others committing the sin against them.  Parents have to be vigilant – constantly on guard – for their children, to protect that innocence for them and help the children grow strong so that one day they will be old enough to protect their own innocence.  While they are young they are still vulnerable, and parents need to step in to guard them.  Parents have to be careful about the education they are getting, the television they are watching, the friends they are making, including the example given by other relatives and family members.  
          It’s not just sexual abuse we must be vigilant about, it’s any value and attitude that leads us against God’s Commandments.  We need to be especially vigilant about television and entertainment media.  
          Jesus was the Good Shepherd.  He always guided people in the right path.  He never gave wrong information.  He always protected the flock from evil and deception.  He never took advantage of someone’s weakness but always tried to strengthen and encourage and be patient with those who were struggling.  With Jesus people were safe.  They could trust him, and be open.  He is the Good Shepherd, not like the wolves in sheep’s clothing who mislead and hurt and destroy.  And he was constantly aware that the wolves were out there.  
          We must imitate Jesus, careful to avoid the sin of scandal, and doing whatever we can to protect the young and innocent from those who would harm them spiritually, and mislead them into doing evil.  Our soul is our most precious possession, more important than the body.  Nothing is worse than to harm someone’s soul.  Better for him to have a great millstone tied about his neck and drowned in the depths of the sea.
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I am not sure if I can answer your question, but I do have an idea.

Jesus fulfills Moses’ teachings.

There are four levels of Scripture in these readings: The literal, the biblical allegory, the moral and the anagogical (the four last things).

The literal is the historical conversation of Jesus and Moses.

The allegory is Jesus fulfilling Moses. They both send out many teachers.

The moral teaching is that the law is refreshing. Let the law change your inner eyes, et cetera.

The anagogical teaching is that we will be judged when we die.

Again, Jesus fulfills Moses’ teachings.

The seventy-two worked with Moses and Joshua.

Also, there are many people who were working with Christ, even if the disciples do not know of them. If they are performing loving deeds, they are with Christ.

Again, it is biblical allegory. It happens in the readings at every Holy Mass. Jesus fulfills Moses and all of the prophets.

Moral sense: Concerning the plucking out the eyes, we have interior eyes. We have interior hands and feet. Our hands must do good works and not evil works. It is by our feet that we walk in faith. We walk by faith. We must put on Christ. We must use His eyes, hands and feet. He works in us, with us, and through us. Then we will be His workers even if the other disciples do not know us, He does.

The law of the Lord will perfect our inner eyes. The law of the Lord is in the psalm.

Again the anagogical, the law is good for our inner eyes. The reading from St. James is telling us that we will be thrown into the fire if our inner eyes are not perfected by God’s law. Jesus wants us to pluck out our inner evil eyes and be guided by His refreshing law.
 
Thanks for the insights. Yes, outside of the Gospel reading, I heard nothing (in the homily) about the plucking out of eyes and chopping off of feet. I don’t know if my priest was losing me or what. I just found it odd that the homily trailed off into child sex abuse. Perhaps it was b/c of the headlines or perhaps it was b/c a few years back my parish suffered through dealing with a lay youth minister (paid staff) who propositioned two high school age parishoners. I was a bit surprised that abortion wasn’t mentioned and that a rep from our right to life ministry wasn’t on hand to speak after mass.

Some of the texts I read on the sunday’s mass readings turned it completely into a discussion of how we shouldn’t discriminate against anyone b/c they are different than us. I could see that focus but thought it read too much into things.
 
Maureen,

I think it’s a question of emphasis. Indeed God is not Catholic; God is God. Also, we should indeed respect people (in general) and respect their religion; we ask the same of others, after all.

On the other hand, the Catholic Church definitely IS the One True Church and IS better than the other religions and churches and we should not lose sight of that. But that doesn’t mean that we have to rub people’s noses in it at every opportunity; they tend to resent it and we lose chances to lead people to worship God with us.
  • Liberian
 
Can anyone tell me what they got out of the Mass readings yesterday? My pastor went off on Respect for Life but discussed child sex abuse. At any rate, I’m not sure he helped my understanding of the readings!😃

Here’s a link to the readings in case anyone forgot.

usccb.org/nab/100106.shtml
Our priest did a workup on the " For whoever is not against us is for us."
He went over how great other religions were.
This culminated in him eventually comparing churches to restaurants and remarking how good it is that there is more then one type of restaurant.

I was tempted to ask him after Mass if he believed a church that does not have the Eucharist could possibly feed him better, but was afraid of the answer I might have gotten.

God help us.:crying:
 
My pastor said that it shows that we should not be jealous of our neighbours. If someone else has special gifts that God has given him, we should be happy for that person and work with him, not hate him or covet his gifts. If we wish to be important in the Kingdom of God, we need to lay aside our jealousy and covetousness and be willing to be servants, even if we do not get money or fame from our service. Jealousy causes more strife in families, amongst neighbours, and in churches than many other sins, and it is necessary to pray and work toward eliminating it.
 
Clearly, some of these priests who are preaching indifferentism and syncretism are demonstraing the serious lack to grasp the Catholic faith. It also demonstrates that, despite clear teaching elsewhere in scripture and sacred tradition, they have no problem presenting such idiotic teaching to the Faithful.

In Christ,
Irenaeus
 
Our priest did a workup on the " For whoever is not against us is for us."
He went over how great other religions were.
This culminated in him eventually comparing churches to restaurants and remarking how good it is that there is more then one type of restaurant.
This is a fair analogy if the priest were comparing the various rites within the Catholic Church. If not, then you should ask your priest how could it be possibly good that there are ‘churches’ who teach that the Lord’s Supper is only symbolic, or that one is justified by faith alone, or that abortion is morally licit, or that the Successor of Peter is the antichrist, or any number of false teachings.
I was tempted to ask him after Mass if he believed a church that does not have the Eucharist could possibly feed him better, but was afraid of the answer I might have gotten.

God help us.:crying:
I would still ask.

In Christ,
Irenaeus
 
I think my pastor got it right when he talked about the evils of jealousy and covetousness. Once before, when I heard those readings, I actually was convicted of my sin of jealousy and went to confession right away because of this. I was actually despising someone whom I felt was more prosperous than myself, but the readings showed me how wrong I was. In fact, I just went to Confession, and the priest suggested that I always thank God for what He has given me. If I am thankful, I will not be uncharitable is what the priest told me.
 
I always saw this as a warning about jealousy and intolerance. Are priest also spent a lot of time on the child abuse/neglect aspect. This seams to be the trend with the recent issues with abuse.
 
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