Investigating Evolution in Rome

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**Investigating Evolution in Rome

**by Maciej Giertych

At the end of October and the beginning of November, the Pontifical Academy of Sciences met in Rome to discuss the theory of evolution. The official topic under discussion was “Scientific insights into the evolution of the universe and of life.” This was in connection with the Darwinian Year, on the occasion of the 200 anniversary of his birthday and the 150th anniversary of the publication of the book On the Origin of Species. When I heard about this session I searched out addresses of all the members of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences (among them about one-third are Nobel prize laureates) and sent them my booklet “Teaching on evolution in European schools” together with a cover letter in which I explained who I am and I expressed the hope that the enclosed booklet would prove useful to them in connection with the session they were about to participate in.
A few of the academicians sent me a non-committal thank you letter; however the Chancellor of the Academy, Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo wrote a cordial, longer letter. I responded asking him whether any part of the proceedings would be open to the public and if not whether it would be possible to obtain an invitation to some part of it. Following that I received a phone call from my brother Fr. Wojciech Giertych, Theologian of the Papal Household, with the information that Bishop Sánchez Sorondo had called him and told him that I would not receive a reply to my letter, but that I could come and sit in on the session as an observer, but without the right to speak. And thus I became a participant in the October 31-November 4 session of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences. Unfortunately I was unable to participate in the official discussions. However, I used all the intervals for conversations with the participants and I made my booklet available in English to all who were interested. English was the primary language throughout the conference. About 40 copies were picked up.
My observations from this extraordinary experience are quite disturbing. All the academicians are scientists of the highest level and the papers presented were truly of top quality. However, unfortunately many of the academicians are atheists. The remainder are supporters of the theory of evolution but allow for the possibility of God’s influence on its course. The applause after the presentations of atheists was much more enthusiastic than after the speeches of believers. In all the discussions after the papers the main confrontation was between atheists and theists on whether God is necessary or redundant in explaining evolutionary processes. Among the speakers and polemists there was not a single critic of the theory of evolution.

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That was very good – thanks.
Those present, primarily retirees, had never heard of scientific research that contradicted the theory of evolution.
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The “retirees” have been spoon-fed Darwinism for so long that they are no longer capable of critical thought.
From the theistic side the most interesting paper was presented by Cardinal Christoph Schönborn (not a member of the academy). He summarised the statements on evolution made so far by Benedict XVI (and Cardinal Ratzinger). In the discussion that followed Schönborn forcefully defended the view of the Pope and his own that God is not to be called in only to fill gaps in the evolutionary process. He supervises the totality of the development of the World. To a direct question, whether he believes in evolution Schönborn answered that for the theory to be proven still much is lacking.
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Thankfully, there are some powerful voices who have to stand alone against the materialist-mob.
 
…The media were not very happy that in his speech to the Academy Pope Benedict XVI did not express support for the theory of evolution.
 
buffalo said:
Investigating Evolution in Rome

by Maciej Giertych
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He sure is upset that he wasn’t allowed to participate. I guess he considers the entire conference bogus.

“It appears that the usefulness of this (March 2009) conference will be similar to that of the recent conference at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences. The evolution supporters will not be confronted by scientific critics of the theory.”

Why does he need a conference in Rome to do that? There are scientific conferences going on all the time.

Of course, I see that there was a parallel conference going on at the same time. He claimed that it was designed to present scientific results that contradict the Darwinian theory of evolution. Then I saw Berthault’s name at the top of the list and realized that it was nothing other than a meeting of the usual suspects with themselves.

Berthault ought to set his sites on real conferences.

I also note that there was a geophysicist that discussed the impossibility of evolution based on the second law of thermodynamics. Hmm.

And I wonder why the press ignored them.

Peace

Tim
 
Orogeny said:
He sure is upset that he wasn’t allowed to participate. I guess he considers the entire conference bogus.

“It appears that the usefulness of this (March 2009) conference will be similar to that of the recent conference at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences. The evolution supporters will not be confronted by scientific critics of the theory.”

Why does he need a conference in Rome to do that? There are scientific conferences going on all the time.

Of course, I see that there was a parallel conference going on at the same time. He claimed that it was designed to present scientific results that contradict the Darwinian theory of evolution. Then I saw Berthault’s name at the top of the list and realized that it was nothing other than a meeting of the usual suspects with themselves.

Berthault ought to set his sites on real conferences.

I also note that there was a geophysicist that discussed the impossibility of evolution based on the second law of thermodynamics. Hmm.

And I wonder why the press ignored them.

Peace

Tim
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This is his point:

…My observations from this extraordinary experience are quite disturbing. All the academicians are scientists of the highest level and the papers presented were truly of top quality. However, unfortunately many of the academicians are atheists. The remainder are supporters of the theory of evolution but allow for the possibility of God’s influence on its course. The applause after the presentations of atheists was much more enthusiastic than after the speeches of believers. In all the discussions after the papers the main confrontation was between atheists and theists on whether God is necessary or redundant in explaining evolutionary processes. Among the speakers and polemists there was not a single critic of the theory of evolution.
 
buffalo said:
This is his point:

…My observations from this extraordinary experience are quite disturbing. All the academicians are scientists of the highest level and the papers presented were truly of top quality. However, unfortunately many of the academicians are atheists. The remainder are supporters of the theory of evolution but allow for the possibility of God’s influence on its course. The applause after the presentations of atheists was much more enthusiastic than after the speeches of believers. In all the discussions after the papers the main confrontation was between atheists and theists on whether God is necessary or redundant in explaining evolutionary processes. Among the speakers and polemists there was not a single critic of the theory of evolution.
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Well, his point is that there were no critics of the theory of evolution (ie himself) presenting at the conference. He has yet to show that his position is scientifically credible. Why not establish his position in the scientific community and then ask to be allowed to present at the next Vatican conference? He then has the credibility that he needs and would have a case for inclusion.

Peace

Tim
 
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