Is allah thesame God in christianity?

[memnoch_lover]

The Lord says " It was my will that he(jesus) should suffer his death was a sacrifice to bring forgiveness.(isaiah 53:10)…whereas the koran says " and because of their saying "We killed the messiah son of mary the messenger of allah— but they killed him not nor crucified him, but the resemblance of jesus was put over another man and those who differ in them are full of doubts.They have no knowledge, they follw nothing but conjecture, For surely they killed him(jesus) not.(surah 4:157)
clearly the message of the two books, the bible and koran are contradictory.
my question is is the God of the bible and God of the koran thesame?if the they are thesame why is the message of the bible and koran contradicts?

 

[aridite]

You’re right, that passage from the Koran contradicts the Gospels, so they cannot both be true. This is enough to show that not all religions are equally true, just different ways to reach the same God. It is a logical possibity that the Koran and the Gospels might both be wrong, but knowing that the Gospels are true, I have to say that the Koran (at least in this passage) has to be false. So, I think it pretty misleading to say that Muslims accept Moses in the OT and Jesus in the NT: they have a fundamentally different view of who Jesus was, at least.

But are they talking about the same person and just are very much mistaken about him, or is their Jesus a different one than mine? Same goes for Allah: is he the same God as the Blessed Trinity, or does the fact that they deny He is a Trinity mean that Allah is a different reality than the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses and Jesus? I think it would make communication pretty difficult if we were to say that every different description referred to a different individual. So, I pretty much accept that the Muslim (or anyone who refers to a single Supreme Being) and I are talking about the same God, but disagree on the attributes or discriptions of God. The same would apply to God as described by Aristotle or A.N. Whitehead. I’m not sure about Hindus or those who worship a goddess.

As for your second question: I don’t know why the Koran contradicts the Gospel. But just because the Koran has some truth, it does not mean that all of it (or even that any part of it) was inspired, and so God would be contradicting himself. It might just be that Mohammed was right about some things, but wrong in denying the death and resurrection of Jesus. I suppose he also would be wrong in saying that the whole thing came from God Himself or from an angel

 

[Steve_Andersen]

since both faiths claim there is only one God I would think that they have to be talking about the same One by defintion…after all niether thinks there are any others
it is not like we’re comparing Jove and Odin

 

[aspawloski4th]

allah is the moon god of the ancient tribal religion of animism.

 

[Tom_of_Assisi]

Steve Andersen:

since both faiths claim there is only one God I would think that they have to be talking about the same One by defintion.…after all niether thinks there are any others
it is not like we’re comparing Jove and Odin

I don’t want to offend any poppys, but if a Baptist and a Catholic both say they are members of the One True Church…must they be talking about the same Church by definition? The Mormons also assert they are members of the true Church…it must be the same as mine by definition, right?

read John 10:1-2, 10:7-9 if you are still confused

 

[Ahimsa]

“There’s a difference between knowing the path, and walking the path.”
-- Morpheus

 

[vern_humphrey]

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day."330

 

[PMV]

Christains and Muslims do worship the same God; Yahweh and Allah are the same. The way I think of it, we worship the same God the Father, but when it comes to the Trinity that’s where our difference is seen.