Is anything in these commitments/prayers in error?

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This is the commitment made in the Life in The Spirit Seminar before being prayed over.
I am doing this seminar, mainly to see what its about, and get to know others in the church community.

Being still on my Catholic L plates, I am a bit unsure about part of this.

This is what is expected of us , to be said, before being prayed over.

1.Do you renounce satan and all wrongdoing.
2.Do you believe Jesus is the Son of God, that he died to free us from our sins, and that he rose to bring us new life.
3. Will you follow Jesus as your Lord.

Then this prayer
Lord Jesus Christ, I want to belong to you from now on. I want to be freed from the dominion of darkness and the rule of satan, and I want to enter into your kingdom and be part of your people. I will turn away from all wrongdoing , and I will avoid everything that leads me to wrongdoing. I ask you to forgive all the sins that I have committed. I offer my life to you, and I promise to obey you as my Lord.
I ask you to baptise me in the Holy Spirit and give me the gift of tongues.

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This is the commitment made in the Life in The Spirit Seminar before being prayed over…

…**I ask you to baptise me in the Holy Spirit and give me the gift of tongues.
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Thanks for any (name removed by moderator)ut.
That last line raises a large red flag!
“and give me the gift of tongues.”: a VERY dangerous request, and presumptuous.
The first part of that sentence isn’t squeaky clean either: if we’re in the state of grace, the Holy Spirit already dwells in us. The Sacrament of Confirmation gives us a booster shot.
The whole thing sounds like the extreme wing of the Charismatic movement, including the potential to lose self-control.

i’d avoid it like the proverbial plague.

Now for the flack. 🤷
 
This seminar is part of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal movement. It has been praised by all the recent Popes and conforms to Church teaching. The charism of “speaking in tongues” is not common in the Catholic Church but is Biblical in origin.

EWTN’s Colin Donovan on Charismatic Renewal, including some cautions:

Charismatic Renewal
 
There are so many threads about the Life in The Spirit Seminars here at CAF
i.e: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=975552
Please run a search here and read through a few more of the threads.

I do find the following to be troubling:
“I ask you to baptize me in the Holy Spirit and give me the gift of tongues”
Given The Nicene Creed
(…) I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins (…)
As PaulFromIowa points out, there is a significant support for the program; however, from the link Paul provides I think the following should be of note:
(…) It is for these reasons that most spiritual writers, especially the mystical doctor St. John of the Cross, warn us not to seek such extraordinary phenomenon. As noted earlier, Vatican II made this warning part of its teaching on the charismatic gifts.
(…)
For this reason to say that the Charismatic Renewal is approved by the Church **is not a blanket approval **of every alleged charismatic gift or every charismatic group or individual within the Church.
IMHO: St John of the Cross’ warning shouldn’t be lightly dismissed. To ask for a charismatic gift, strikes too close to the mother’s request in Matthew and our Lord’s reply
Matthew 20: 22 (DR)

So while there may be some valid presentations of this program, there may also be individuals that go too far with the intents of the program.

I would highly advise reviewing some of the materials by doing a search. You can find online PDFs and PowerPoint presentations of this program before you attend any of these seminars.

On a personal note:
A very large part of the reason I was an agnostic was due to the Charismatic-Evangelical factions of each of the Christian denominations. There was such a strong peer-pressure within these groups to have an “experience with God” that I actually turned away from all of the churches for a very long time due to the hypocrisy of many of these “members” falling down and speaking in tongues the night before and being cruel and gossiping the next morning. >> MIND YOU, I am NOT saying that everyone in these movements are like this, and the program you are looking at attending may be very well done, just be cautious if you attend.
 
Technically, the baptism in the Holy Spirit occurs when a person receives the graces of the Sacrament of Baptism. However, insincerity on the part of the person receiving the sacrament can hinder the effects of the sacrament until the moment their insincerity ceases. Popularly, the baptism in the Holy Spirit occurs when the insincerity which hindered the effectiveness of the sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation ceases and the spiritual gifts of the Holy Spirit received in the Sacrament of Baptism and strengthened in Sacrament of Confirmation become effective.

As long as the words “the baptism of the Holy Spirit” are understood in the popular sense and not the technical sense, I don’t see a problem.
 
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