Is being disorganized a sin or personality flaw or both?

[DBT]

No offense

None taken.

But you are mistaken in your understanding of what I said.

Spiritual combat can be fought on different levels. All I did was introduce the theological term (imperfection) for what other posters have been expressing from what they know in their heart and personal experience.

The important point: imperfections are not sins.

St. John of the Cross’ Ascent of Mount Carmel is a wonderful work to get a handle on this distinction. It’s all about our battle with imperfection: the attachments, quirks, pecadillios, hard-wired personality traits and ingrained habits that prevent those truly desiring holiness from attaining that which they desire. As he teaches, though, our battle with imperfection doesn’t really begin until our struggle with sin is largely under control.

Hope this helps,
Dave

 

[KendraDZ1902]

No offense, and I really hope that this doesn’t come across the wrong way, but I feel like you’re just making up excuses for people and are basically telling them not take responsibility for their faults and not to work on stuff that they need to work on. I understand that we’re all born with faults, but we can’t just live with these faults and be OK with having them. We should work to change them and stop falling into the same traps over and over again. I hate the whole, “I was born this way” argument.

And even if we don’t “set out” to do something, that doesn’t make it OK.

Yeahhhh, I’m not making up excuses when I say that I legitimately forgot to do something or didn’t pay attention to what someone said or that my desk is looks horrid to you, but I know where everything is and DO. NOT. TOUCH. IT. Do I try to work on it? Well, my medicine helps some, but even sticky notes and calendars don’t help all the time, you have to remember to look at them.
So, hate the “born this way” argument, but people really do have problems that even if they try, they will fail.