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Is God everywhere (omnipresent)? If so, what evidence - be it scriptural, philosophical, or otherwise - is there to support this?
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Psalm 139 [138 Douay]
[7] Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy face? [8] If I ascend into heaven, thou art there: if I descend into hell, thou art present. [9] If I take my wings early in the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea: [10] Even there also shall thy hand lead me: and thy right hand shall hold me. . . .
[7] Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy face? [8] If I ascend into heaven, thou art there: if I descend into hell, thou art present. [9] If I take my wings early in the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea: [10] Even there also shall thy hand lead me: and thy right hand shall hold me. . . .
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ImaJesusAddict
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There is really no evidence specifically in the Bible that supports this, but God is all powerful, so he could be if he wanted to. He even may be everywhere right now, I don’t know, but let’s just say that there is nowhere where God cannot find you. God’s perfection and creations can be found everywhere if you just look around and think about it. 
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meltzerboy
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I’m not exactly sure what the question means in the context of the assumption that G-d is outside of space, time, and His creation, while at the same time being omnipresent in and through His creation in a non-spatial way. Was that clear?!
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Robert_Sock
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God is one, and there exists nothing besides Him! So yes, God is omni-present.
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Love4All
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Pantheism.
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Bezant
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Fair point. See my confusion?
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D_Martin
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For God to know all things, or in this case the statement “without your Father”(in reference to presence) may help, I can’t think of any others though one would think there would be something in the OT. The Book of Job might be a place to look.
Mt:10:29: Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.
30: But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
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Physicists believe that there are 15 dimensions. However, to make the metaphor less difficult, lets use only 3. Let a slice of a brick represent a plane of 2 dimensions. That slice has no volume because it lacks a 3rd dimension. Its reality is dependent on the entire brick.
Similarily, God is transcendant (transcends the 2 dimensional slice) but also immanent (is totaly present in the 2d slice!)!
Physicists believe that there are 15 dimensions. However, to make the metaphor less difficult, lets use only 3. Let a slice of a brick represent a plane of 2 dimensions. That slice has no volume because it lacks a 3rd dimension. Its reality is dependent on the entire brick.
Similarily, God is transcendant (transcends the 2 dimensional slice) but also immanent (is totaly present in the 2d slice!)!
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Robert_Sock
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No, Hasidim, which is perfectly consistent with Catholicism.
meltzerboy
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I don’t think Hasidism claims that G-d Himself is to be found in all things. If it did, that would be a heretical notion. What it does claim is that the divine spark should be sought in all people and living creatures, and even in inanimate objects as well as events. This means that if we engage in mundane tasks, such as eating, sexual relations, and business affairs, with the ultimate purpose of serving G-d, these tasks become part of the Divine. With regard to people, of course they contain the divine spark since they are created in the image of G-d.
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sumusresnovarum
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God is not physically present anywhere, as he is a spiritual being, outside of time and space. However, God is present in all things in the sense that all things participate in God. That is to say, all things by being actual participate in God, who is actuality; all things, by being good participate in God, who is goodness; and so on and so in. In that way, God is found in all things, but is not to be confused with any one thing or even the sum of all things. This is Aquinas’ Metaphysics of Participation.
Contra pantheism, or even panentheism, God can most appropriately be found in all things by the very fact that he is distinct from the world and not confused with it. This is known as the God-world distinction.
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shoe
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Since God is Spirit, and therefore not limited by time or space, which He created, and since omniscience is true of God, it follows that He is present everywhere, even if everywhere includes such places as multiverses, alternate realities, and parallel dimensions.“Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy face? If I ascend into heaven, thou art there: if I descend into hell, thou art present” (Psalm 139:7-8).
“Shall a man be hid in secret places, and I not see him, saith the Lord? do not I fill heaven and earth, saith the Lord?” (Jeremiah 23:24).
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aspirant
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See also St. Thomas Aquinas: I.8.1-4*Summa Theologica *
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abucs
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The Christian view (and i think the scientific evidence) is that our physical universe is a second order reality.
In this context it is difficult to answer the question is ‘God everywhere?’ because we are asking about a primary reality being present in a secondary creation. It would all depend on the connections between the primary and secondary realities (which we know little about).
An analogy could be like asking if a computer programmer was present in the computer virtual world that he designed and coded. In one way you could say ‘yes, he is present in everything because it is all of his creation’. In another sense you could argue that he is nowhere ‘physically’ present in that creation because he is not part of what was designed and created unless he chose to enter it like part of his creation.
In this context it is difficult to answer the question is ‘God everywhere?’ because we are asking about a primary reality being present in a secondary creation. It would all depend on the connections between the primary and secondary realities (which we know little about).
An analogy could be like asking if a computer programmer was present in the computer virtual world that he designed and coded. In one way you could say ‘yes, he is present in everything because it is all of his creation’. In another sense you could argue that he is nowhere ‘physically’ present in that creation because he is not part of what was designed and created unless he chose to enter it like part of his creation.
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