Is it imoral to use artificial death control to live past 120yrs?

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I am surprised that death could be postponed indefinitely. Our cells are programmed to divide only so many times. Also the older we get the more likely of something going haywire such as a cancer cell which divides faster than a normal cell. That will kill a person off eventually. There is a finite number of cell divisions and while maybe we could extend life a while, I don’t think indefinite is on the radar screen.

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I am surprised that death could be postponed indefinitely. Our cells are programmed to divide only so many times. Also the older we get the more likely of something going haywire such as a cancer cell which divides faster than a normal cell. That will kill a person off eventually. There is a finite number of cell divisions and while maybe we could extend life a while, I don’t think indefinite is on the radar screen.

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Hello Lisa N,

I am no expert. I have read medical journals where science has manipulated the enzyms which cut and past DNA. They have successfully genetically reengineered rice DNA, with vitamine A producing DNA from another species, for the rice to now produce Vitamine A. In poor countries where they eat only rice, they were going blind for lack of vitamine A. (Kind of similiar to early sailors contracting scurvy from lack of fresh fruits.) With the new genetically reengineered rice, hundreds of thousands of people in poor countries are no longer going blind.

Science has also put human DNA into bacteria for the production of human insulin. When the bacteria divide and multiply so does the production of human insulin. Diabetis is the worlds number one illness. Bacteria producing human insulin has greatly aided those people who suffer from diabettis.

Viruses are subcellular organisms which lock onto cells and inject DNA strands into the cell. The cell then mutates. If science can harness viruses to deliver selected DNA stands and enzymes which cut and past selected DNA into cellular DNA, whala, you have the capacity to reengineer all the cells in the human body. Preprogramed limits on cell division could be altered or extended by viruse delivered and enzye installed, new strands of DNA.

We have already increased average life span from 50 years to 80 years in the past one hundred years. Judging from the tremendous growth in scientific discovery of the past one hundred years, there is a genuine chance of greatly extending life beyond God’s limit of 120 years, in the next 50 years.

Peace in Christ,
Steven Merten
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You turn men back to dust
and say: “Go back, sons of men.”
To your eyes a thousand years
are like yesterday, come and gone,
no more than a watch in the night.

You sweep men away like a dream,
like grass which springs up in the morning.
In the morning it springs up and flowers:
by evening it withers and fades.

So we are destroyed in your anger,
struck with terror in your fury.
Our guilt lies open before you;
our secrets in the light of your face.

All our days pass away in your anger.
Our life is over like a sigh.
Our span is seventy years
or eighty for those who are strong.
And most of these are emptiness and pain.
They pass swiftly and we are gone.

Who understands the power of your anger
and fears the strength of your fury?
Make us know the shortness of our life
that we may gain wisdom of heart.

Psalm 90:3-12

The extension of life is such a frivolous persuit. There are greater tasks to be done. Those who seek such tasks are trying to avoid death themselves for they cannot see beyond the grave. And so shall it be for them when they die.

All toil is in vain if not done for the Glory of God.
 
Wow, knowone has posted on this since 05. That’s what it looks like anyways. Okay what i believe is this, we (man) was created with the desire to live forever. Only because that is what God intended when he created us. However, we rebelled and where decieved by Lucifer. So now we have this desire in our heart to stay alive as long as possible. We want to stay youthful and young looking as long as possible, but the fall of man took away that blessing from us. But the desire remains…

Because that’s the way God made us!!!
 
I prefer the “rhythm method” of death control:

Breathe in, breathe out. Breathe in, breathe out.

Don’t break the rhythm.
 
I wouldn’t think of tomorrow. Today is enough trouble to handle. Yesterday is over and all that I think, say and do has been taken into account of by Him. I only ask for His mercy to forgive me for the wrong I do and inspire me to do what is pleasing to Him. If He takes me today, then Blessed Be Him. If tomorrow…Blessed be Him too.
We cannot overcome death (physical) because we are part of nature - which is finite.
Death is not an Option but a Necessary path to eternal life.::cool:
 
I’ve seen studies on this idea, it involves genetic changes to living humans, probably carried out in the womb, which would remove our genetic predisposition to die. Crocodiles and other primitive reptiles have this property, they go on living and growing until they die of natural causes. Hormones could then be added to induce puberty so we’d stop growing but would not grow old.

Even if you eliminated old age, this would not mean everlasting bodily life. Only a small number of people die of direct consequences of old age. If you cured all diseases AND eliminated old age, that would still leave death by accidental cause, which accounts for around 6% of deaths at present, which means an average lifespan around 900, the same as the Old Testament patriarchs, but it would not be a guarantee of any particular age. One man could live to be 3000, but a 5-year-old could still get hit by a car and killed.

Other than the existing prescriptions against IVF and embryo research, this would also contravene other existing Church teachings.

For example, our organs only have a projected lifespan of about 120 years, so after that we would have to grow modified embryos to be organ-bags for the living. With a population that lived that long, serious limits would have to be placed on reproduction, probably leading to mass sterilizations.

It’s not a recipe for living forever, it’s a recipe for a very protracted death and stagnation, with very few new lives being brought into existence. It’s very selfish technology indeed. I think if they had time to think it through, most people would rather have death than the alternative.
 
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